2024 NHL Draft Thread

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Wanted to get this going for speculation purposes.

From the Blues perspective it's a much less exciting Night One, at least as things stand, which could always change with the help of the two Second and Third round picks they're sitting with as of now.

Here's the Blues' range from a Mock Draft by the Athletic's two prospect writers that released today.
9. Calgary Flames (Pick by Wheeler): Tij Iginla, C/LW, Kelowna
The Flames strongly consider Carter Yakemchuk from their backyard with the Hitmen, as well as centers Berkly Catton and Konsta Helenius, but take Iginla, not because it’s a feel-good story but because he belongs in the range and fits with the player type they’ve targeted in the past.

10. New Jersey Devils (Pick by Pronman): Beckett Sennecke, RW, Oshawa
Sennecke is a dynamic 6-2 wing who has vaulted up lists in the second half. He is an ideal wing to play alongside Jack Hughes or Nico Hischier and has major offensive upside as a pro.

11. Buffalo Sabres (Pick by Wheeler): Carter Yakemchuk, RHD, Calgary Hitmen
The Sabres have drafted a lot of smaller, skilled forwards like Catton and Helenius, and while they’d surely still consider both here and their NHL roster has a strong (and young) nucleus with Owen Power, Rasmus Dahlin, Mattias Samuelsson and Bowen Byram, their pool does lack a premium D prospect and they go get it with Yakemchuk. Sennecke would make some sense and offer something a little different here as well.

12. Philadelphia Flyers (Pick by Pronman): Berkly Catton, C, Spokane
The Flyers take a swing on the dynamic playmaking center in Catton. Ideally they’d add a bit more size after picking Matvei Michkov last year but like with Michkov, Catton’s talent is too much to pass up at 12.

13. Minnesota Wild (Pick by Wheeler): Cole Eiserman, LW, U.S. NTDP
The Wild would likely strongly consider the natural center in Konsta Helenius here, but they already have a similar player in Marco Rossi and elect to swing on Eiserman’s one-shot scoring talent instead.

14. San Jose Sharks (Pick by Pronman): Stian Solberg, LHD, Valerenga
Sharks step up to take the 6-2, mobile defenseman who had a great World Championships for Norway and is a killer with his physical play, adding some much-needed talent to their upcoming blue line.

15. Detroit Red Wings (Pick by Wheeler): Konsta Helenius, C, Tappara
There are others available who they could and should consider in this range (a forward like Michael Brandsegg-Nygard fits their mold, and defenders like Adam Jiricek and EJ Emery would be appealing). But with Helenius available, they grab one of the draft’s top centers yet again (of a slightly higher grade at this stage than Nate Danielson and Marco Kasper, probably, too).

16. St. Louis Blues (Pick by Pronman): Adam Jiricek, RHD, Plzen
Jiricek’s lost season lowers him a bit from where he would have gone if the draft were in January, but he will still be highly sought after. He’s a big right-shot who can skate and displayed excellent two-way play at the Hlinka Gretzky last summer.

17. Washington Capitals (Pick by Scott Wheeler): Michael Brandsegg-Nygard, RW, Mora IK
The Capitals took one of the most competitive, pro-built, projectable forwards in the draft a year ago when they drafted Ryan Leonard and they double down here with Brandsegg-Nygard. They consider the available centers and defensemen here but MBN’s type, fit and availability aren’t worth passing up on.

18. New York Islanders (Pick by Pronman): Jett Luchanko, C, Guelph
Luchanko’s stock is on the rise especially after a great U18s for Canada. The Islanders have very little coming up the middle, and Luchanko’s speed, compete and hockey sense would make him a potential second or third-line center for them one day.

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Picking 16th sucks…BPA will likely be a forward. Top of my list for pick 16 right now is Andrew Basha.
I would prefer a trade up to nab a dman. Buium is my top choice but we won’t get him.
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NHLTIM wrote: Picking 16th sucks…BPA will likely be a forward. Top of my list for pick 16 right now is Andrew Basha.
I would prefer a trade up to nab a dman. Buium is my top choice but we won’t get him.
I'm surprised you prefer to move up and get a Dman. I thought you're philosophy was always top forward.
Unless it's a can't miss like a Quinn Hughes type, I can see that, but otherwise I'd rather get the best forward out there. Just sayin.......

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BillP. wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 10:22 am
NHLTIM wrote: Picking 16th sucks…BPA will likely be a forward. Top of my list for pick 16 right now is Andrew Basha.
I would prefer a trade up to nab a dman. Buium is my top choice but we won’t get him.
I'm surprised you prefer to move up and get a Dman. I thought you're philosophy was always top forward.
Unless it's a can't miss like a Quinn Hughes type, I can see that, but otherwise I'd rather get the best forward out there. Just sayin.......
I generally subscribe to that theory too, but the Blues are in a different spot.

One, unless there's a surprise, the BPA is likely to be a handful of forwards when the Blues pick. No matter who they pick of them, they will already have a player like that in their system. Now this isn't a bad thing, you truly can never have enough good players. However, if the Blues were able to move up for someone like Dickinson who I am planting my flag on as the guy I want but is projected in the 8-10 range, the Blues will add someone they have no one even close to being like in their system already. A player like that would be the best of both worlds in that he would be the BPA and the biggest need.

I could see a scenario where Adam Jiricek is available at 16 and fills both need and value, but he's a RHD and ideally the Blues end up with the perfect Parayko partner.

The other name to keep an eye on is Stain Solberg, a Norwegian d-man who will be playing in the SHL next year which seems to be the type the Blues are falling in love with.

Forward wise, if somehow Beckett Sennecke is on the board at 16 they better run that card up to the stage.
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NHLTIM wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 10:24 am Picking 16th sucks…BPA will likely be a forward. Top of my list for pick 16 right now is Andrew Basha.
I would prefer a trade up to nab a dman. Buium is my top choice but we won’t get him.
From everything I've seen, his name isn't being mentioned until the end of the first beginning of the second but it only takes one team to fall in love with a guy.
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Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 9:55 am
BillP. wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 10:22 am
NHLTIM wrote: Picking 16th sucks…BPA will likely be a forward. Top of my list for pick 16 right now is Andrew Basha.
I would prefer a trade up to nab a dman. Buium is my top choice but we won’t get him.
I'm surprised you prefer to move up and get a Dman. I thought you're philosophy was always top forward.
Unless it's a can't miss like a Quinn Hughes type, I can see that, but otherwise I'd rather get the best forward out there. Just sayin.......
I generally subscribe to that theory too, but the Blues are in a different spot.

One, unless there's a surprise, the BPA is likely to be a handful of forwards when the Blues pick. No matter who they pick of them, they will already have a player like that in their system. Now this isn't a bad thing, you truly can never have enough good players. However, if the Blues were able to move up for someone like Dickinson who I am planting my flag on as the guy I want but is projected in the 8-10 range, the Blues will add someone they have no one even close to being like in their system already. A player like that would be the best of both worlds in that he would be the BPA and the biggest need.

I could see a scenario where Adam Jiricek is available at 16 and fills both need and value, but he's a RHD and ideally the Blues end up with the perfect Parayko partner.

The other name to keep an eye on is Stain Solberg, a Norwegian d-man who will be playing in the SHL next year which seems to be the type the Blues are falling in love with.

Forward wise, if somehow Beckett Sennecke is on the board at 16 they better run that card up to the stage.
Solberg because we need a novelty Norwegian or maybe move down on a trade to move a contract. 😅

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Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 9:58 am
NHLTIM wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 10:24 am Picking 16th sucks…BPA will likely be a forward. Top of my list for pick 16 right now is Andrew Basha.
I would prefer a trade up to nab a dman. Buium is my top choice but we won’t get him.
From everything I've seen, his name isn't being mentioned until the end of the first beginning of the second but it only takes one team to fall in love with a guy.
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BillP. wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 10:22 am
NHLTIM wrote: Picking 16th sucks…BPA will likely be a forward. Top of my list for pick 16 right now is Andrew Basha.
I would prefer a trade up to nab a dman. Buium is my top choice but we won’t get him.
I'm surprised you prefer to move up and get a Dman. I thought you're philosophy was always top forward.
Unless it's a can't miss like a Quinn Hughes type, I can see that, but otherwise I'd rather get the best forward out there. Just sayin.......
We need a higher quality dman in the system and there are several in this years draft, unfortunately all will be gone before pick 16. At least the three that I prefer, Buium, Dickinson, or Parekh.
Drafting at 16 the BPA is likely going to be a forward. Basha is my guy, has been for about a month and will likely be my guy come draft night provided all my other wants are off the board.
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Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 8:41 am With the "hiring" of Steen, I have never been more sure the Blues are going to take Stian Solberg with their 16th pick. Good size, plays physical, LHD, and most importantly to the Blues, he's Scandinavian.
Possibly. I'd still probably prefer Jiříček with more offensive upside and as a RHD. Righties seem to be in higher demand than Southpaws on defense.

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RAFritchey wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 8:22 pm
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 8:41 am With the "hiring" of Steen, I have never been more sure the Blues are going to take Stian Solberg with their 16th pick. Good size, plays physical, LHD, and most importantly to the Blues, he's Scandinavian.
Possibly. I'd still probably prefer Jiříček with more offensive upside and as a RHD. Righties seem to be in higher demand than Southpaws on defense.

https://dobberprospects.com/player/stian-solberg/

https://dobberprospects.com/player/adam-jiricek/
Jiricek is tough cause teams haven't really been able to evaluate him this year after he had his knee injury the game 1 of the world juniors. Had he been healthy and played as expected, he was likely a top 10 pick. But now he is a guy coming off major knee surgery. Blues may still be scorn by the repeated knee injuries of Fabbri.
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I really wonder if the story about Steen's hiring coinciding with the 3 Swedish League first round picks is entirely overblown. Dvorsky was widely considered the best player available and a bit of a steal at 10. I looked up 2 different player rankings from before the draft just now, and Stenberg was ranked 13 and 22 in those. Again those are just 2 of many, but still a great value at 25 regardless of what league he played in or nationality. Lindstein was ranked 24 in one, and not in top 32 in the other. When you couple that range with the fact that the Blues were surely picking a D after going forward in their first 2 picks, it once again seems like a fairly logical pick at 29 regardless of where he came from.

I'm sure there are a couple players that would have been good value in those picks at 25 and 29 that had no ties to Sweden, but I really don't think Steen's hiring is necessarily a harbinger of a massive Euro influx.
...but whatever, the Blues won the Cup!!!!!

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Dave's a mess wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:00 am I really wonder if the story about Steen's hiring coinciding with the 3 Swedish League first round picks is entirely overblown. Dvorsky was widely considered the best player available and a bit of a steal at 10. I looked up 2 different player rankings from before the draft just now, and Stenberg was ranked 13 and 22 in those. Again those are just 2 of many, but still a great value at 25 regardless of what league he played in or nationality. Lindstein was ranked 24 in one, and not in top 32 in the other. When you couple that range with the fact that the Blues were surely picking a D after going forward in their first 2 picks, it once again seems like a fairly logical pick at 29 regardless of where he came from.

I'm sure there are a couple players that would have been good value in those picks at 25 and 29 that had no ties to Sweden, but I really don't think Steen's hiring is necessarily a harbinger of a massive Euro influx.
Four of their first 6 picks came from the Swedish league after selecting just TWO since 2018. Leo Loof and Simon Robertsson.
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Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:03 am
Dave's a mess wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:00 am I really wonder if the story about Steen's hiring coinciding with the 3 Swedish League first round picks is entirely overblown. Dvorsky was widely considered the best player available and a bit of a steal at 10. I looked up 2 different player rankings from before the draft just now, and Stenberg was ranked 13 and 22 in those. Again those are just 2 of many, but still a great value at 25 regardless of what league he played in or nationality. Lindstein was ranked 24 in one, and not in top 32 in the other. When you couple that range with the fact that the Blues were surely picking a D after going forward in their first 2 picks, it once again seems like a fairly logical pick at 29 regardless of where he came from.

I'm sure there are a couple players that would have been good value in those picks at 25 and 29 that had no ties to Sweden, but I really don't think Steen's hiring is necessarily a harbinger of a massive Euro influx.
Four of their first 6 picks came from the Swedish league after selecting just TWO since 2018. Leo Loof and Simon Robertsson.
I get that, but again, 3 of those seemed like borderline no brainers based on the way the draft fell in front of them. Maybe they do end up becoming a Swedish/Euro heavy roster, I just don't know that last year's draft is necessarily the smoking gun.
...but whatever, the Blues won the Cup!!!!!

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Dave's a mess wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:37 am
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:03 am
Dave's a mess wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:00 am I really wonder if the story about Steen's hiring coinciding with the 3 Swedish League first round picks is entirely overblown. Dvorsky was widely considered the best player available and a bit of a steal at 10. I looked up 2 different player rankings from before the draft just now, and Stenberg was ranked 13 and 22 in those. Again those are just 2 of many, but still a great value at 25 regardless of what league he played in or nationality. Lindstein was ranked 24 in one, and not in top 32 in the other. When you couple that range with the fact that the Blues were surely picking a D after going forward in their first 2 picks, it once again seems like a fairly logical pick at 29 regardless of where he came from.

I'm sure there are a couple players that would have been good value in those picks at 25 and 29 that had no ties to Sweden, but I really don't think Steen's hiring is necessarily a harbinger of a massive Euro influx.
Four of their first 6 picks came from the Swedish league after selecting just TWO since 2018. Leo Loof and Simon Robertsson.
I get that, but again, 3 of those seemed like borderline no brainers based on the way the draft fell in front of them. Maybe they do end up becoming a Swedish/Euro heavy roster, I just don't know that last year's draft is necessarily the smoking gun.
Only Dvorsky seemed like the no brainer. The other guys were guys selected when you'd have 10+ other guys rated around the same. Neither were seen as "oh my gosh I can't believe they lasted this long guys". Ironically, the guy who did fall went on to be teammates with Dvorsky in Quentin Musty.

The fact that it had been since Rundblad since they last took a Swede in round one and then take two after hiring Steen, who they then fast track to General Manager. I'm not sure why you're trying to downplay the influence Steen has on this organization when it's not even an assumption, you can see it with your eyes. Of course, now that Steen is back in North America and not living/scouting in Sweden we'll see if that's still his preference.
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I think Steen might have a bit of an influence on the picks but by and large I think the Swedish invasion is a coincidence.

I'm not really worried about picking at 16. The Blues recent history at mid round or later 1st round picks has generally been pretty decent except for that atrocious Bokk pick.

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Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:52 am
Dave's a mess wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:37 am
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:03 am

Four of their first 6 picks came from the Swedish league after selecting just TWO since 2018. Leo Loof and Simon Robertsson.
I get that, but again, 3 of those seemed like borderline no brainers based on the way the draft fell in front of them. Maybe they do end up becoming a Swedish/Euro heavy roster, I just don't know that last year's draft is necessarily the smoking gun.
Only Dvorsky seemed like the no brainer. The other guys were guys selected when you'd have 10+ other guys rated around the same. Neither were seen as "oh my gosh I can't believe they lasted this long guys". Ironically, the guy who did fall went on to be teammates with Dvorsky in Quentin Musty.

The fact that it had been since Rundblad since they last took a Swede in round one and then take two after hiring Steen, who they then fast track to General Manager. I'm not sure why you're trying to downplay the influence Steen has on this organization when it's not even an assumption, you can see it with your eyes. Of course, now that Steen is back in North America and not living/scouting in Sweden we'll see if that's still his preference.
1. I'm not downplaying his role in the organization, I'm downplaying his hiring's influence on last year's draft.
2. It's the middle of June and there are 18 days between every Cup Final game so I'm stirring up some inconsequential nonsense for clicks for TC.

The broad point is just that I think it's entirely plausible that those 3 first rounders all playing in Sweden and Steen's role last year is mostly coincidental. He obviously had a voice, and I'm fully on board with his ascension in the organization, just don't know that we're going to see a million Swedes as a result of it.
...but whatever, the Blues won the Cup!!!!!

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Dave's a mess wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:10 am
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:52 am
Dave's a mess wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:37 am

I get that, but again, 3 of those seemed like borderline no brainers based on the way the draft fell in front of them. Maybe they do end up becoming a Swedish/Euro heavy roster, I just don't know that last year's draft is necessarily the smoking gun.
Only Dvorsky seemed like the no brainer. The other guys were guys selected when you'd have 10+ other guys rated around the same. Neither were seen as "oh my gosh I can't believe they lasted this long guys". Ironically, the guy who did fall went on to be teammates with Dvorsky in Quentin Musty.

The fact that it had been since Rundblad since they last took a Swede in round one and then take two after hiring Steen, who they then fast track to General Manager. I'm not sure why you're trying to downplay the influence Steen has on this organization when it's not even an assumption, you can see it with your eyes. Of course, now that Steen is back in North America and not living/scouting in Sweden we'll see if that's still his preference.
1. I'm not downplaying his role in the organization, I'm downplaying his hiring's influence on last year's draft.
2. It's the middle of June and there are 18 days between every Cup Final game so I'm stirring up some inconsequential nonsense for clicks for TC.

The broad point is just that I think it's entirely plausible that those 3 first rounders all playing in Sweden and Steen's role last year is mostly coincidental. He obviously had a voice, and I'm fully on board with his ascension in the organization, just don't know that we're going to see a million Swedes as a result of it.
Haha I'm sure TC appreciates the extra ad revenue you're generating for him.
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