BillP. wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 11:30 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote:

BillP. wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 10:31 am

Man, Ron Hextall getting the short stick again. I didn't follow his moves over there but I'm not sure it's his fault taking over a franchise that's trying to hang on to the past as long as it can.

Has Hextall had success anywhere?

I think he's credited for playing a big part in the development of the Kings Cup teams. That was supposed to be his strength. Yet he goes to Philly to do a rebuild and Holmgren cans his ass and the Flyers were never ready to compete yet. So he goes to Pitt which probably has unrealistic expectations. So he's had some tough luck in not really landing in a good spot.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote:

BillP. wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 11:30 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Has Hextall had success anywhere?

I think he's credited for playing a big part in the development of the Kings Cup teams. That was supposed to be his strength. Yet he goes to Philly to do a rebuild and Holmgren cans his ass and the Flyers were never ready to compete yet. So he goes to Pitt which probably has unrealistic expectations. So he's had some tough luck in not really landing in a good spot.

Hextall was there for parts of 5 seasons and the team was showing no signs of improvement from what I recall. I'll always thank him for taking the Lehtera contract for the Blues.

BillP. wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 9:44 am

Dave's a mess wrote:

So no chance to move up to Number 3? Wonder why. Guess that slot goes to the teams that pick higher than us?

BillP. wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 9:44 am

Dave's a mess wrote:

So no chance to move up to Number 3? Wonder why. Guess that slot goes to the teams that pick higher than us?

CaptSMRT wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 2:33 pmThis was a season of transition... everyone can toast their 16oz aluminum Bud Light to that. The only consistency this team experienced in '22-'23... woul be this forum. You done good.

RAFritchey wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:05 pm

BillP. wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 9:44 am

Dave's a mess wrote:

So no chance to move up to Number 3? Wonder why. Guess that slot goes to the teams that pick higher than us?

There are actually drawings for the 1st two picks. Whoever wins the first drawing is disqualified from the second.

If we win the first drawing we move up to #1
If we lose the first drawing and win the second drawing we move up to #2
If teams already drafting ahead of us win both drawings, we don't move (Stay at #10)
If a team behind us wins one of the lotteries, we drop down to #11.
If teams behind us win BOTH of he lotteries, we drop down to #12.

At least, that's my understanding.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 3:32 pm This all just reads of a toxic locker room this season.

CaptSMRT wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:56 pm Wealthy people are parasites...

CaptSMRT wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:56 pm Wealthy people are parasites...

BluesSK wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:25 pm

CaptSMRT wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:56 pm Wealthy people are parasites...

He had a point but he should know those prices.

What does a beer and hot dog cost? $30+?

It's a big racket.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 3:32 pm This all just reads of a toxic locker room this season.

CaptSMRT wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:32 pm

BluesSK wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:25 pm

CaptSMRT wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:56 pm Wealthy people are parasites...

He had a point but he should know those prices.

What does a beer and hot dog cost? $30+?

It's a big racket.

I dont even drink at games any more.

BluesSK wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:02 pm

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 3:32 pm This all just reads of a toxic locker room this season.

Two problems this season. Both of Armstrong's making; Kyrou and Tarasenko.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:29 pm

BluesSK wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:02 pm

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 3:32 pm This all just reads of a toxic locker room this season.

Two problems this season. Both of Armstrong's making; Kyrou and Tarasenko.

We read that different I guess as Tarasenko wasn’t the captain. Army saying he doesn’t know if a Captain even does anything anymore and Schenn talking about guys only caring about themselves makes me think it was ROR. Team got better without him

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:29 pm

BluesSK wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:02 pm

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 3:32 pm This all just reads of a toxic locker room this season.

Two problems this season. Both of Armstrong's making; Kyrou and Tarasenko.

We read that different I guess as Tarasenko wasn’t the captain. Army saying he doesn’t know if a Captain even does anything anymore and Schenn talking about guys only caring about themselves makes me think it was ROR. Team got better without him

BillP wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 1:35 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:29 pm

BluesSK wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:02 pm

Two problems this season. Both of Armstrong's making; Kyrou and Tarasenko.

We read that different I guess as Tarasenko wasn’t the captain. Army saying he doesn’t know if a Captain even does anything anymore and Schenn talking about guys only caring about themselves makes me think it was ROR. Team got better without him

So hard to say. I don’t think I can go there about ROR. I don’t think any of that needed to be said. The team just wasn’t good enough. It’s like I always say, when you win, you look good. When you lose you look bad. The very team that won the Cup had character issues and was blowing up and that all changed cause they started winning. This team just never got going.

“I need to know what’s going on with a 21-year-old high-level athlete and so I have to find out who’s dealing with high-level athletes from 18-25.

“There’s a group of players, and I’m not saying they’re bad or they’re wrong, but they’ll play 18 minutes (in a game) to get an 18-second shift that can go on YouTube and get a million likes and think that that was a good night,

Dave's a mess wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:38 am After reading a piece JR just wrote, I assume Army is frustrated with Kyrou for sure, and any combination of the other 18-25 year olds on the roster. A couple quotes:

“I need to know what’s going on with a 21-year-old high-level athlete and so I have to find out who’s dealing with high-level athletes from 18-25.

“There’s a group of players, and I’m not saying they’re bad or they’re wrong, but they’ll play 18 minutes (in a game) to get an 18-second shift that can go on YouTube and get a million likes and think that that was a good night,

The 18-25 year olds on the roster at the moment are Neighbours, Toropchenko, Thomas, Kyrou and Brown. I think some of that was clearly directed at Kyrou and Brown, with the difference being that Brown doesn't really offer any positives to offset the headaches and can easily removed from this roster this summer. Torophchencko at least seemed to work his ass off, so I assume none of those comments are directed at him, but I'd believe it if you'd told me it was any combination of the others.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 12:08 pm

Dave's a mess wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:38 am After reading a piece JR just wrote, I assume Army is frustrated with Kyrou for sure, and any combination of the other 18-25 year olds on the roster. A couple quotes:

“I need to know what’s going on with a 21-year-old high-level athlete and so I have to find out who’s dealing with high-level athletes from 18-25.

“There’s a group of players, and I’m not saying they’re bad or they’re wrong, but they’ll play 18 minutes (in a game) to get an 18-second shift that can go on YouTube and get a million likes and think that that was a good night,

The 18-25 year olds on the roster at the moment are Neighbours, Toropchenko, Thomas, Kyrou and Brown. I think some of that was clearly directed at Kyrou and Brown, with the difference being that Brown doesn't really offer any positives to offset the headaches and can easily removed from this roster this summer. Torophchencko at least seemed to work his ass off, so I assume none of those comments are directed at him, but I'd believe it if you'd told me it was any combination of the others.

Kyrou is paid to score goals and has turned himself into a damn near 40 goal scorer as a 2nd round pick. I'm on his side in this.

Dave's a mess wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 1:16 pm

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 12:08 pm

Dave's a mess wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:38 am After reading a piece JR just wrote, I assume Army is frustrated with Kyrou for sure, and any combination of the other 18-25 year olds on the roster. A couple quotes:




The 18-25 year olds on the roster at the moment are Neighbours, Toropchenko, Thomas, Kyrou and Brown. I think some of that was clearly directed at Kyrou and Brown, with the difference being that Brown doesn't really offer any positives to offset the headaches and can easily removed from this roster this summer. Torophchencko at least seemed to work his ass off, so I assume none of those comments are directed at him, but I'd believe it if you'd told me it was any combination of the others.

Kyrou is paid to score goals and has turned himself into a damn near 40 goal scorer as a 2nd round pick. I'm on his side in this.

Totally get that, but who else does that line about the 18 second highlight vs. the other 18 minutes apply to? Fair or unfair I just think it's pretty clear that's who Armstrong was talking about. I think he improved as the year went on in terms of the complete game, but there's still a ways to go. He's not alone in the inconsistent effort group. He's got the stuff that can't be taught or developed, so I'm still high on him.