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Im paying $20 for the Bally's app. I was paying more for cable and only watching the Blues... its a bargain.Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:00 pm Say what you want about soccer but for 99 bucks a season you can get every MLS game and there’s no local blackouts. Take notes NHL.
We should rent billboards in every major NHL city served by Sinclair with this message on it, then also one directly outside of NHL HQ.Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:00 pm Say what you want about soccer but for 99 bucks a season you can get every MLS game and there’s no local blackouts. Take notes NHL.
good, fuck them. hopefully sinclair next.Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:18 pm Bally Sports is reportedly preparing to file bankruptcy
Agreed. The sooner the better. This could be a financial blow to teams in those markets however so we’ll have to see how that plays out.T.C. wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:24 pmgood, fuck them. hopefully sinclair next.Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:18 pm Bally Sports is reportedly preparing to file bankruptcy
The owners only have themselves to blame for lost revenues as they've allowed Bettman to run the sport into the ground every step of the way chasing an extra buck with gimmicks versus actually making the game accessible for fans.
I stopped chasing those games. I might go to a bar or somewhere or not... there will be more games.big d note wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 3:17 pm The ESPN/TNT split is annoying so far. As an out-of-town fan, I've subscribed for 20 years to their variations of NHL Center Ice, NHL Gamecenter, NHL.TV, etc. Happy to pay it, and got nearly every game without blackouts. Now I can get most of the games with my ESPN+ subscription at a reasonable price, but there's no easy way to stream the TNT games unless I get a whole TV streaming package for that one channel. Usually I just pirate those games instead, but it's a hassle. I would gladly give them a couple bucks to watch those TNT games, but I'm not dropping $50/month to get a handful of Blues games and a pile of other shit I don't care about.
Why does it have to be that hard???? They are the ones trying to sell their product?CaptSMRT wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:46 pmI stopped chasing those games. I might go to a bar or somewhere or not... there will be more games.big d note wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 3:17 pm The ESPN/TNT split is annoying so far. As an out-of-town fan, I've subscribed for 20 years to their variations of NHL Center Ice, NHL Gamecenter, NHL.TV, etc. Happy to pay it, and got nearly every game without blackouts. Now I can get most of the games with my ESPN+ subscription at a reasonable price, but there's no easy way to stream the TNT games unless I get a whole TV streaming package for that one channel. Usually I just pirate those games instead, but it's a hassle. I would gladly give them a couple bucks to watch those TNT games, but I'm not dropping $50/month to get a handful of Blues games and a pile of other shit I don't care about.
Right... but they aren't selling it to you really. They are selling it to the various media vendors... The ESPN + games... TNT... those are league games...Turk Sanderson wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 8:12 pmWhy does it have to be that hard???? They are the ones trying to sell their product?CaptSMRT wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:46 pmI stopped chasing those games. I might go to a bar or somewhere or not... there will be more games.big d note wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 3:17 pm The ESPN/TNT split is annoying so far. As an out-of-town fan, I've subscribed for 20 years to their variations of NHL Center Ice, NHL Gamecenter, NHL.TV, etc. Happy to pay it, and got nearly every game without blackouts. Now I can get most of the games with my ESPN+ subscription at a reasonable price, but there's no easy way to stream the TNT games unless I get a whole TV streaming package for that one channel. Usually I just pirate those games instead, but it's a hassle. I would gladly give them a couple bucks to watch those TNT games, but I'm not dropping $50/month to get a handful of Blues games and a pile of other shit I don't care about.
Without fans, they may as well be selling air... they don't seem to have a grasp of that concept.CaptSMRT wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:23 pmRight... but they aren't selling it to you really. They are selling it to the various media vendors... The ESPN + games... TNT... those are league games...Turk Sanderson wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 8:12 pmWhy does it have to be that hard???? They are the ones trying to sell their product?CaptSMRT wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:46 pm
I stopped chasing those games. I might go to a bar or somewhere or not... there will be more games.
It satisfied President Skroob's immediate needs on Planet Spaceball. Why can't NHL fans be more like him?Turk Sanderson wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:27 amWithout fans, they may as well be selling air... they don't seem to have a grasp of that concept.CaptSMRT wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:23 pmRight... but they aren't selling it to you really. They are selling it to the various media vendors... The ESPN + games... TNT... those are league games...Turk Sanderson wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 8:12 pmWhy does it have to be that hard???? They are the ones trying to sell their product?
When have the NHL board of Governors even done anything that makes sense? TV ratings down 22%Turk Sanderson wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:27 amWithout fans, they may as well be selling air... they don't seem to have a grasp of that concept.CaptSMRT wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:23 pmRight... but they aren't selling it to you really. They are selling it to the various media vendors... The ESPN + games... TNT... those are league games...Turk Sanderson wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 8:12 pm
Why does it have to be that hard???? They are the ones trying to sell their product?
I reckon an author named "Jori Negin-Shecter" has no purpose, dense or otherwise.
I read an article that mentioned if you take out the NHL games that were directly opposed to Sunday Night Football, the ratings are pretty much the same as last year. I think the 22% thing is alarmist. What should be the issue is that's a super low viewership to begin with. All the things people bitch about are 100% valid concerns, and the NHL brushes them away. The other side of the regional broadcasts is the national numbers miss out on huge markets like Boston because they still carry the national games on their local network too. Beyond the thing's you mentioned, there are broader concerns, like the NHL's outright refusal to really market it's stars. Turn on ESPN and you hear Pat Mahomes this, LeBron James that, but when it comes to hockey it's the Lightning, the Avalance, the Bruins etc. There's no easier entry point to new fans than the best players, and the NHL is probably annoyed that they see David Pastrnak trying to sell us shitty coffee and donuts every commercial break.T.C. wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 7:05 am That article is being purposefully dense. Viewership down - might possibly be due to the fact that NHL handed broadcast rights for 23 teams to a regional sports network that effectively locked out most fans and is now bankrupt. Higher social media engagement = those fans taking to social media to “engage” as they continually bitch about being blocked from viewing it, the retarded digital ads, shitty announcers, etc. It’s Occam’s razor, not rocket surgery.
No matter what... fans will get screwed