Dave's a mess wrote:

BillP. wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 6:28 am I'm too lazy right now to rank the top 5 worst signings in Blues history but the Krug signing ranks near the top. We all expected a canon of a player and we ended up with a thud. I wish him well and hope he bounces back strong but you have to wonder if he's going to be our Hossa now if what he has ends up being chronic.

All of that is fair until the Hossa part. Hossa was never anything less than excellent throughout his time with the Hawks. As soon as he retired they dropped 6 places in the divisional standings. Both he and the Hawks knew he was going to retire at the exact moment he did from the time the contract was signed as his salary dropped to only $1M/year at that point. The fact that he was able to cite "itchiness" as a reason to do so and still collect his remaining paychecks was a bonus.

I was just making a reference about the LTIR part. Could be anyone for that matter that ended his career on LTIR, that's all I was trying to point out.
Don't kill me on details dude

So what are we looking at now??

Leddy Parayko
Perun -Faulk
Suter/Tucker - Joseph/Kessel

??

Not going to lie, that looks awful haha

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:21 am So what are we looking at now??

Leddy Parayko
Perun -Faulk
Suter/Tucker - Joseph/Kessel

??

Not going to lie, that looks awful haha

As it currently stands, I wonder if they go with a 7 man to start:

Parayko-Leddy
Suter-Faulk
Perun/Joseph-Kessel

If they keep it with 6 (which is probably likely) they just rotate that 3rd LD by matchup. I also wonder if Faulk finds himself on another team's roster in October, and Kessel gets bumped up to the second pair. He did fairly well with larger minutes by the end of the year last year.

If Faulk is healthy, the D will be better. He's still a damn good player. JMO

BillP. wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:48 am If Faulk is healthy, the D will be better. He's still a damn good player. JMO

imo, he's only been a "damn good player" in one of his 5 years here so banking on that could be optimistic.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:15 am

BillP. wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:48 am If Faulk is healthy, the D will be better. He's still a damn good player. JMO

imo, he's only been a "damn good player" in one of his 5 years here so banking on that could be optimistic.

He is when he wants to be.

Dave's a mess wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:38 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:21 am So what are we looking at now??

Leddy Parayko
Perun -Faulk
Suter/Tucker - Joseph/Kessel

??

Not going to lie, that looks awful haha

As it currently stands, I wonder if they go with a 7 man to start:

Parayko-Leddy
Suter-Faulk
Perun/Joseph-Kessel

If they keep it with 6 (which is probably likely) they just rotate that 3rd LD by matchup. I also wonder if Faulk finds himself on another team's roster in October, and Kessel gets bumped up to the second pair. He did fairly well with larger minutes by the end of the year last year.

So ferrario and rutherford were talking on the last minute blues podcast about the D pairing and stated Suter and Kessel may be the 3rd pairing and a "shut down line" with perun and tucker playing off/on with faulk so then you have a veteran presence with the younger guys and perun plays alot like krug as it is.

But then also stated Suter and Faulk played on a line together in...what was it...the all star or olympics or international or ..

Food for thought/slow time for the blues

Ozzies09tc wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:43 am

Dave's a mess wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:38 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:21 am So what are we looking at now??

Leddy Parayko
Perun -Faulk
Suter/Tucker - Joseph/Kessel

??

Not going to lie, that looks awful haha

As it currently stands, I wonder if they go with a 7 man to start:

Parayko-Leddy
Suter-Faulk
Perun/Joseph-Kessel

If they keep it with 6 (which is probably likely) they just rotate that 3rd LD by matchup. I also wonder if Faulk finds himself on another team's roster in October, and Kessel gets bumped up to the second pair. He did fairly well with larger minutes by the end of the year last year.

So ferrario and rutherford were talking on the last minute blues podcast about the D pairing and stated Suter and Kessel may be the 3rd pairing and a "shut down line" with perun and tucker playing off/on with faulk so then you have a veteran presence with the younger guys and perun plays alot like krug as it is.

But then also stated Suter and Faulk played on a line together in...what was it...the all star or olympics or international or ..

Food for thought/slow time for the blues

I think the Blues had a good indication Krug wasn't going to be available and signed Suter. There could be a lot of experimentation on defense until we find some line combinations that gel.

No knock on Krug but I think the D will work out better this year with him out of the mix and a healthy Faulk and Suter in the rotation now. Hopefully Tucker and Kessel keep growing and if Perunovich can stay healthy we'll be in business!

FLA receives: Jake Neighbours, Jordan Kyrou, 1st (2026) and a 2nd (2025)

STL receives: Matthew Tkachuck and a 3rd (2025)

Would you? (Not saying I would or wouldn't...just throwing this out there)

Ozzies09tc wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:20 pm FLA receives: Jake Neighbours, Jordan Kyrou, 1st (2026) and a 2nd (2025)

STL receives: Matthew Tkachuck and a 3rd (2025)

Would you? (Not saying I would or wouldn't...just throwing this out there)

You scared the shit outta me,in no way should Neighbors be on anyone's lips involving a trade. Just my opinion, so I know it doesn't mean much.

Ozzies09tc wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:20 pm FLA receives: Jake Neighbours, Jordan Kyrou, 1st (2026) and a 2nd (2025)

STL receives: Matthew Tkachuck and a 3rd (2025)

Would you? (Not saying I would or wouldn't...just throwing this out there)

Yes. No questions asked.

1 no.

1 yes.

Interesting poll here

Ozzies09tc wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:27 pm 1 no.

1 yes.

Interesting poll here

You could make a legit case that the Blues would be giving up less than the Panthers did at the time of the trade and since then he's led them to back to back Cup Finals, winning one.

I love Neighbours but you have to wonder what he really is. He ranked 16th in the league in shooting % last year. Is that sustainable for him? If so, then that's great and he'll be a perennial 30 goal scorer. If not, he's likely a high teens -20 goals a season guy, who doesn't create offense for his linemates. Pat Maroon also had a 27 goal season in his career.

Ozzies09tc wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:20 pm FLA receives: Jake Neighbours, Jordan Kyrou, 1st (2026) and a 2nd (2025)

STL receives: Matthew Tkachuck and a 3rd (2025)

Would you? (Not saying I would or wouldn't...just throwing this out there)

My answer would be no.

We have too many holes to seriously challenge for the Cup now and having Tkachuk means you're playing to win right now. That just isn't going to happen as much as I'd like to have the guy.

I'd consider a package for Brady though. He's two years younger and isn't quite the player Matthew is but he'd be a great fit.

2 no

1 yes

This is fun

Remove the 1st and yeah probably.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:38 pm

Ozzies09tc wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:27 pm 1 no.

1 yes.

Interesting poll here

You could make a legit case that the Blues would be giving up less than the Panthers did at the time of the trade and since then he's led them to back to back Cup Finals, winning one.

I love Neighbours but you have to wonder what he really is. He ranked 16th in the league in shooting % last year. Is that sustainable for him? If so, then that's great and he'll be a perennial 30 goal scorer. If not, he's likely a high teens -20 goals a season guy, who doesn't create offense for his linemates. Pat Maroon also had a 27 goal season in his career.

He played with McDavid. Not exactly apples to apples here.

1. You have to say Yes.

You’d have to throw Bolduc in the equation to make that a hard decision.

If you threw Bolduc in I would gamble and say No. I think Neighbors has what it takes. His jump in productivity last year was a clear indicator of the level of compete he has a player. He’s driven to succeed. That’s enough for me.

Yes

2 no

3 yes

1 maybe

Wonder what Robb K thinks. Me personally, i do think it may be a tad much for him, however We'd lose abour 10 goals a season for but also 20 against so net gain would be worth it

Fun off season chatter

A big nope for me… as bad as I’d like to move Kyrou for someone similar, Tkachuk landed himself on a big physical team… which the Blues are not…. everyone would expect the same results from him here, it wouldn’t happen here… he’s always had some bad-asses around him to cover him… the Blues don’t even have any.

I'd have to go for “No” as well. We don't have the kind of team to surround him with that would allow him to thrive here like he is in Florida.

4.no

3 yes

2 maybe (i considered myself a maybe)

So it seems outta sheer boredom, for funsies, i made up a decent trade proposal.

Essentially two 1sts, two 2nds, for a 1st and a 3rd. Yay me

Ozzies09tc wrote: Sat Jul 20, 2024 4:40 pm 2 no

3 yes

1 maybe

Wonder what Robb K thinks. Me personally, i do think it may be a tad much for him, however We'd lose abour 10 goals a season for but also 20 against so net gain would be worth it

Fun off season chatter

I'd say it's too much to give up. I like the way Neighbours played last season. I don't think it was a fluke. I also think he'll learn how to better set up his linemates with more playing time together. I agree that with The Blues' current defensive crew, it is too soon to trade a large bundle for a big-ticket guy like Matthew Tkachuck (although I 'd love to see him on The Blues). First, The Blues need to get their defensive corps straightened out (with some young high-level prospects, and at least one relatively young star). I do like the youth they've got on the forward side.