BlueinNy wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 8:25 am I'm retired and could probably do a fair to middling job with a 10 second delay. "What the fuck was he thinking" and "for the love of all thats holy just fucking stop turning the puck over" probably wouldn't sit well.

You'd be surprised. Joe Vitale can't even pronounce lackadaisical.

Related but not related. Did I hear Mizzou's season opening football game isn't available tonight in St. Louis due to an ESPN/Charter or whoever dispute?

Dave's a mess wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:11 pm Related but not related. Did I hear Mizzou's season opening football game isn't available tonight in St. Louis due to an ESPN/Charter or whoever dispute?

It was available on ESPN+/SEC network for me but maybe different in St Louis. Spectrum dropping ESPN right at the start of CFB season is criminal

Not great news, Cook is still going to be the starter.

If Mizzou had a real QB, they could contend for the division title IMO.

I'd like to know what the heck is wrong with Jake Garcia. Must of really rubbed the HC the wrong way. How he isn't the front runner to compete for the QB job is beyond me. Sam Horn in no way is ready for the starting job. Really brings up a red flag on Garcia. He can't be too happy that he transferred there and doesn't even get a shot. Gotta be pissed.

I couldn't read the article but why does the NHL put up with this.

A cheap as can be. That's what they think you deserve.

BluesSK wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:06 pm I couldn't read the article but why does the NHL put up with this.

A cheap as can be. That's what they think you deserve.

They’ve made it too expensive for you to go to games and now they are making sure you can’t watch at home either. Sound business strategy.

I couldn’t read it either - another sound strategy - but found the article via other means: That’s it. That’s the entire article they want you to pay for. Minus the fantastic headline picture used in that tweet, of course.

And yeah, my son and I were looking at going to that Caps game this season, as we’d like to see Ovi one more time and it doesn’t look like the suite is going to happen (due to price increases). The cheapest seats are like $70 each. That means for me, my wife, him and his wife, we’re at nearly $300 before parking or refreshments. And this shit company wants me to pay $20/mo for one thing I care about, now featuring reduced camera shots. NHL is fucked in the head. Neither of those are viable prices. And they keep raising the cap, raising player salaries… gee, wonder who pays for that?

I got to watch game1 on ESPN+ via Hulu/Netflix .... national game with Dallas announcers (had to watch with no sound). If you can't afford to go to home games, or travel to the away games, the NHL doesn't give a fat fiddler's fuck about you... period.

More Bally’s sports fun. Comcast has pulled them. It is nearly impossible for a local sports fan to watch their team.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/400 ... ir-comcast

Diamond Sports Group originally agreed to a six-month extension with Comcast in the fall but could not agree on a new multiyear contract by the time that deal expired on Tuesday night, prompting Comcast to pull its Bally Sports channels.

Bettman is a jack-off!

"nearly impossible"? welcome to three years ago now. i have forgotten what it's like to watch hockey 3-4x per week.

T.C. wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 5:06 pm "nearly impossible"? welcome to three years ago now. i have forgotten what it's like to watch hockey 3-4x per week.

By the way, unrelated but I was traveling via amtrak today and connected to their wifi and went to check this board and was presented with an IP address ban Wonder who you IP address banned while they were on an Amtrak

T.C. wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 5:06 pm "nearly impossible"? welcome to three years ago now. i have forgotten what it's like to watch hockey 3-4x per week.

I was in Boston earlier this week and my hotel didn't have NESN, and TBS was blacked out so I couldn't watch Game 6 from Boston. Luckily my work laptop has a VPN so I could watch on hulu. NESN isn't part of Bally's/Diamond Sports, so all the local networks are finding ways to screw fans.

Turk Sanderson wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 3:30 pm Bettman is a jack-off!

This statement was true, before the shitty tv contracts

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 8:30 pm

T.C. wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 5:06 pm "nearly impossible"? welcome to three years ago now. i have forgotten what it's like to watch hockey 3-4x per week.

By the way, unrelated but I was traveling via amtrak today and connected to their wifi and went to check this board and was presented with an IP address ban Wonder who you IP address banned while they were on an Amtrak

ah dang, well i get liberal with the IP range banning of spammers. if you can capture that IP i'll investigate and fix it, but without that info, not much i can do. sorry about that.

The longest train wreck ever

Oh, now that it hits baseball, the sky is falling? I mean, I’m happy about people finally paying attention, but fuck you.

Important line:

Diamond recently asked to move its confirmation hearing from mid-June to the end of July largely to buy more time to negotiate deals with the NBA and the NHL, both of which were able to essentially take their digital rights back at the conclusion of the 2023-24 season.

WHAT!?!?!?!? Holy shit that’s fucking ideal. I swear, if Diamond somehow is able to continue and the NHL signs a new deal, fuck them forever. You have all the cards. You have existing national partners. You have your own infrastructure. I know this seems obvious, but you know, maybe don’t have too many cooks in the kitchen? Yes, it limits your options for negotiation having all your eggs in one basket, but holy fuck man. This is something that continues to happen all the goddamn time and isn’t right for your fans. It’s your greed that caused this in the first place. Eat it a bit if you have to, but DO FUCKING NOT sign another deal with RSNs that includes blackout provisions.

The only thing that concerns me in that article is this quote:

As NHL attorney Shana Elberg said June 4: "Time is of the essence."

Like they WANT Diamond to come out of this and sign another RSN deal. This fucking clown shoes league, I swear. Even the Cup finals, can’t possibly broadcast those on a widely-adopted national platform that you already had in place (Hulu with ESPN+ or HBO for all other playoff games), you have to do it on goddamn ABC that has no real streaming presence (why would they)? Lucky for me they did, as I have a cheap OTA antenna so was able to watch the last game and the next one, but this is the most retarded fucking league. What a joke. Who the hell is running this and allowing this dumb shit to happen for YEARS now, taking the game away from a shitload of fans?

Oh, right.

The NHL is great at giving the fans what they wany 10-15 years after it's the obvious move.

Seems like the dam is about to burst.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/415 ... teams-2025

Diamond Sports Group, the bankrupt operator of Bally Sports channels, said it will stop broadcasting games in 2025 for 11 of the 12 Major League Baseball teams it currently televises.

Diamond announced the decision Wednesday in court, saying it would continue carrying Atlanta Braves games next season.

Seven of the remaining 11 teams -- the Cincinnati Reds, Detroit Tigers, Kansas City Royals, Los Angeles Angels, Miami Marlins, St. Louis Cardinals and Tampa Bay Rays -- were under contract with Diamond for 2025. Those teams will have to either negotiate a new deal with Diamond or find a different operator.

This is the greatest opportunity possible. This is the moment that the Blues and Cardinals need to join and make their own streaming service. It makes way too much sense. They would keep subscribers year round.

MattyIce wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:35 pm This is the greatest opportunity possible. This is the moment that the Blues and Cardinals need to join and make their own streaming service. It makes way too much sense. They would keep subscribers year round.

Makes too much sense and seems too perfect.

Most likely one will stay with bally and one will sign w like abc or espn or wb11 lol

NO, that's a terrible idea and just more of the same shit. I don't give a fuck about baseball, forcing me to pay for it when I only want hockey sucks. The better idea is to cease this inane idea of regional broadcasters and use the EXISTING nation-wide league plans. All they have to do is lift the stupid fucking idea of local blackout restrictions. Problem solved. I'd subscribe to a national NHL service, as long as I can watch my local team's games. THAT is the easy button. Infrastructure already exists, no need to duplicate the wheel and try to create some new streaming service from scratch. That's just a different flavor of stupid.

T.C. wrote: NO, that's a terrible idea and just more of the same shit. I don't give a fuck about baseball, forcing me to pay for it when I only want hockey sucks. The better idea is to cease this inane idea of regional broadcasters and use the EXISTING nation-wide league plans. All they have to do is lift the stupid fucking idea of local blackout restrictions. Problem solved. I'd subscribe to a national NHL service, as long as I can watch my local team's games. THAT is the easy button. Infrastructure already exists, no need to duplicate the wheel and try to create some new streaming service from scratch. That's just a different flavor of stupid.

This is definitely best case scenario but I'm sure there are some weird hurdles there. We are hockey fans here, but the majority of people probably wouldn't buy the entire NHL package. They only want their hometown team at a lesser price - hence the regional networks. I have zero idea of how the finances work in the NHL, but I would imagine having income from both RSNs and diehards that buy the entire NHL package would come into play as well. One step further, how would the revenue be split up between teams? There are far more people tuning in to watch the Leafs than there are watching the Blue Jackets. I think the point of the RSNs is so teams get revenue based on subscribers to their product.
Not saying I agree with any of this, but I'm sure these are the issues with what you are suggesting. Again, I could be way off base. At the end of the day, these teams and the league are going to do anything to maximize profit.

MattyIce wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 7:53 am

T.C. wrote: NO, that's a terrible idea and just more of the same shit. I don't give a fuck about baseball, forcing me to pay for it when I only want hockey sucks. The better idea is to cease this inane idea of regional broadcasters and use the EXISTING nation-wide league plans. All they have to do is lift the stupid fucking idea of local blackout restrictions. Problem solved. I'd subscribe to a national NHL service, as long as I can watch my local team's games. THAT is the easy button. Infrastructure already exists, no need to duplicate the wheel and try to create some new streaming service from scratch. That's just a different flavor of stupid.

This is definitely best case scenario but I'm sure there are some weird hurdles there. We are hockey fans here, but the majority of people probably wouldn't buy the entire NHL package. They only want their hometown team at a lesser price - hence the regional networks. I have zero idea of how the finances work in the NHL, but I would imagine having income from both RSNs and diehards that buy the entire NHL package would come into play as well. One step further, how would the revenue be split up between teams? There are far more people tuning in to watch the Leafs than there are watching the Blue Jackets. I think the point of the RSNs is so teams get revenue based on subscribers to their product.
Not saying I agree with any of this, but I'm sure these are the issues with what you are suggesting. Again, I could be way off base. At the end of the day, these teams and the league are going to do anything to maximize profit.

As an out of towner, the best thing to happen to my Blues viewing was when the NHL national streaming package went to ESPN+. At the time, it was only $5 a month and I got every NHL game other than the national broadcasts, which I was able to watch anyway. The only Blues games I'm not able to view today are the ones on NHL Network, which happens maybe twice a year. If you lift the regional blackouts, everyone in the STL area is in that boat as well. An NHL funded service for non-national telecasts would be interesting, but I don't know that they'd be willing to pay for the broadcast production for damn near every game every night. Without having a great deal of insight into the financials, I just assume this is all one big house of cards and some section of fans will continue to get screwed until it comes tumbling down, at which point everyone or no one does.

Dave's a mess wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:05 am

MattyIce wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 7:53 am

T.C. wrote: NO, that's a terrible idea and just more of the same shit. I don't give a fuck about baseball, forcing me to pay for it when I only want hockey sucks. The better idea is to cease this inane idea of regional broadcasters and use the EXISTING nation-wide league plans. All they have to do is lift the stupid fucking idea of local blackout restrictions. Problem solved. I'd subscribe to a national NHL service, as long as I can watch my local team's games. THAT is the easy button. Infrastructure already exists, no need to duplicate the wheel and try to create some new streaming service from scratch. That's just a different flavor of stupid.

This is definitely best case scenario but I'm sure there are some weird hurdles there. We are hockey fans here, but the majority of people probably wouldn't buy the entire NHL package. They only want their hometown team at a lesser price - hence the regional networks. I have zero idea of how the finances work in the NHL, but I would imagine having income from both RSNs and diehards that buy the entire NHL package would come into play as well. One step further, how would the revenue be split up between teams? There are far more people tuning in to watch the Leafs than there are watching the Blue Jackets. I think the point of the RSNs is so teams get revenue based on subscribers to their product.
Not saying I agree with any of this, but I'm sure these are the issues with what you are suggesting. Again, I could be way off base. At the end of the day, these teams and the league are going to do anything to maximize profit.

As an out of towner, the best thing to happen to my Blues viewing was when the NHL national streaming package went to ESPN+. At the time, it was only $5 a month and I got every NHL game other than the national broadcasts, which I was able to watch anyway. The only Blues games I'm not able to view today are the ones on NHL Network, which happens maybe twice a year. If you lift the regional blackouts, everyone in the STL area is in that boat as well. An NHL funded service for non-national telecasts would be interesting, but I don't know that they'd be willing to pay for the broadcast production for damn near every game every night. Without having a great deal of insight into the financials, I just assume this is all one big house of cards and some section of fans will continue to get screwed until it comes tumbling down, at which point everyone or no one does.

Yep, I've joked on here several times how the best thing that happened for my Blues viewing experience was leaving the area. lol how ass backwards is that? Want to view your local team? Move away.

This development is good news for the fans from a potential viewing experience. But it's A TON of lost revenue for teams because no way a local subscription service will overset the 10s of millions of dollars they were getting from Bally's in that ridiculous dumb deal that led to their downfall. You may be able to view your team more but the quality of the product will likely suffer.