Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:04 am

Turk Sanderson wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:59 am Players who leave here of their own accord, as free agents, shouldn’t get that honor…. If they weren’t offered a contract, or traded, then that’s on the team.

So are we taking #16 down?

Nope… Keenan fucked him up…. Mother Teresa wouldn’t have had enough patience to put up with Keenan… and she wasn’t much of a goal scorer.

Turk Sanderson wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:32 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:04 am

Turk Sanderson wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:59 am Players who leave here of their own accord, as free agents, shouldn’t get that honor…. If they weren’t offered a contract, or traded, then that’s on the team.

So are we taking #16 down?

Nope… Keenan fucked him up…. Mother Teresa wouldn’t have had enough patience to put up with Keenan… and she wasn’t much of a goal scorer.

A very one sided account here, but a very relevant account nonetheless:

Hull was creating problems before Keenan got here. Remember The Golden Bratt story in the Globe Democrat?
Then Blues let Hull walk. Then both Dallas and Detroit let him walk after only one season.
Bottom line,the Blues were guilty of allowing Hull to create his own little Kingdom in the first place,, because he sold tickets.

Every circumstance is different regarding a Blues number being retired or honored. I have no problem with the names and numbers up there but I don't feel these honorifics should be given out like candy.

Hull should of retired a Blue. Plain and simple. Blues management fucked that up as usual.

BillP. wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:13 pm Hull should of retired a Blue. Plain and simple. Blues management fucked that up as usual.

True... If you have a goose that lays golden eggs, you don't run it off because it shits on your porch once in a while.

barnburner wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:25 pm Hull was creating problems before Keenan got here. Remember The Golden Bratt story in the Globe Democrat?
Then Blues let Hull walk. Then both Dallas and Detroit let him walk after only one season.
Bottom line,the Blues were guilty of allowing Hull to create his own little Kingdom in the first place,, because he sold tickets.

If I remember correctly the Blues offered him a 3 year deal that he turned down because they wouldn't include a NTC. Dallas offered I think a million more and the NTC and he left.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:02 am

barnburner wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:25 pm Hull was creating problems before Keenan got here. Remember The Golden Bratt story in the Globe Democrat?
Then Blues let Hull walk. Then both Dallas and Detroit let him walk after only one season.
Bottom line,the Blues were guilty of allowing Hull to create his own little Kingdom in the first place,, because he sold tickets.

If I remember correctly the Blues offered him a 3 year deal that he turned down because they wouldn't include a NTC. Dallas offered I think a million more and the NTC and he left.

Could be right. Not the first thing this old brain has forgot.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:02 am

barnburner wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:25 pm Hull was creating problems before Keenan got here. Remember The Golden Bratt story in the Globe Democrat?
Then Blues let Hull walk. Then both Dallas and Detroit let him walk after only one season.
Bottom line,the Blues were guilty of allowing Hull to create his own little Kingdom in the first place,, because he sold tickets.

If I remember correctly the Blues offered him a 3 year deal that he turned down because they wouldn't include a NTC. Dallas offered I think a million more and the NTC and he left.

In the clip I posted above Hull claims he actually made up the NTC story so the Blues would have PR cover. His claim is that the Blues never made a competitive offer and just wanted him out of there. I don't know if that's true of course, but that's the story he's going with.

Dave's a mess wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:06 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:02 am

barnburner wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:25 pm Hull was creating problems before Keenan got here. Remember The Golden Bratt story in the Globe Democrat?
Then Blues let Hull walk. Then both Dallas and Detroit let him walk after only one season.
Bottom line,the Blues were guilty of allowing Hull to create his own little Kingdom in the first place,, because he sold tickets.

If I remember correctly the Blues offered him a 3 year deal that he turned down because they wouldn't include a NTC. Dallas offered I think a million more and the NTC and he left.

In the clip I posted above Hull claims he actually made up the NTC story so the Blues would have PR cover. His claim is that the Blues never made a competitive offer and just wanted him out of there. I don't know if that's true of course, but that's the story he's going with.

I'm sure theres 4-5 sides to the story of Hull and his departure. If the Blues wanted him gone, I'm not sure why he'd lie just to help make the team look better but who knows. Sucks it ended how it did but glad he got his cup and that he's also back a part of Blues hockey.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:12 am

Dave's a mess wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:06 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:02 am

If I remember correctly the Blues offered him a 3 year deal that he turned down because they wouldn't include a NTC. Dallas offered I think a million more and the NTC and he left.

In the clip I posted above Hull claims he actually made up the NTC story so the Blues would have PR cover. His claim is that the Blues never made a competitive offer and just wanted him out of there. I don't know if that's true of course, but that's the story he's going with.

I'm sure theres 4-5 sides to the story of Hull and his departure. If the Blues wanted him gone, I'm not sure why he'd lie just to help make the team look better but who knows. Sucks it ended how it did but glad he got his cup and that he's also back a part of Blues hockey.

For sure. It all worked out.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:12 am

Dave's a mess wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:06 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:02 am

If I remember correctly the Blues offered him a 3 year deal that he turned down because they wouldn't include a NTC. Dallas offered I think a million more and the NTC and he left.

In the clip I posted above Hull claims he actually made up the NTC story so the Blues would have PR cover. His claim is that the Blues never made a competitive offer and just wanted him out of there. I don't know if that's true of course, but that's the story he's going with.

I'm sure theres 4-5 sides to the story of Hull and his departure. If the Blues wanted him gone, I'm not sure why he'd lie just to help make the team look better but who knows. Sucks it ended how it did but glad he got his cup and that he's also back a part of Blues hockey.

IIRC (And my memory may be WAY off), they had 4 significant free agents that off season: Hull, Geoff Courtnall, Steve Duchesne, and Al Macinnis. They kept Courtnall and Al, but then Courts got suckerpunched by Owen Nolan the following season (98-99) and ended up only playing 30 total NHL games from 1998-2000 before retiring because of concussions. What would have happened if they'd kept Hull instead of Courtnall? Or if Courtnall had been able to stay healthy and contributed to some of those late-90's and early 2000's teams?

Faulk, ever the patriot ...

JMC-STL wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:45 am Faulk, ever the patriot ...

Good man.

BluesSK wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:15 pm

JMC-STL wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:45 am Faulk, ever the patriot ...

Good man.

How long until Canada puts him on blast?!

Rivermanfan wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:08 pm

BluesSK wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:15 pm

JMC-STL wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:45 am Faulk, ever the patriot ...

Good man.

How long until Canada puts him on blast?!

Don't worry, Canadians aren't THAT hard to handle:

RAFritchey wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:16 pm

Rivermanfan wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:08 pm

BluesSK wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:15 pm

Good man.

How long until Canada puts him on blast?!

Don't worry, Canadians aren't THAT hard to handle:

Canadians.png

LOL

That's pretty good.

Not sure if this makes me feel better or worse. Long thread, but worth a click.

Dave's a mess wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:11 pm Not sure if this makes me feel better or worse. Long thread, but worth a click.

I want to see if Husso has what it takes to be a regular starter.

We need consistency and sadly, Binnington isn't providing it. Not taking tonight into account either. That was a complete team disaster.

BluesSK wrote: Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:33 am

Dave's a mess wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:11 pm Not sure if this makes me feel better or worse. Long thread, but worth a click.

I want to see if Husso has what it takes to be a regular starter.

We need consistency and sadly, Binnington isn't providing it. Not taking tonight into account either. That was a complete team disaster.

Lots of possibilities out there. Among them:
-Normal goalie ebb and flow of 82 game season.
-Husso never faces hard competition (exept when Binnington had covid).
-Team skates harder when backup is in net.
-Binnington took his foot off the gas now that he got paid.
-Husso is just on a heater.
-Binnington is our Niemi and Husso is our Crawford.

Could be a combo of any or all of them, but as always, my official take is that "goalies are weird".

Neal assigned to Springfield. Jim Thomas says he's unsure if he'll report. Might be the end of the road for Neal I'm a Blue Note. He'll always have that preseason hat trick.

Paper transaction

Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Jan 26, 2022 1:18 pm Neal assigned to Springfield. Jim Thomas says he's unsure if he'll report. Might be the end of the road for Neal I'm a Blue Note. He'll always have that preseason hat trick.

It's ok. He's still on Edmonton's payroll.

Turk Sanderson wrote: Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:38 pm Paper transaction

Maybe, but this sounds like the type of thing you say when a player might be done:

Didn't the same thing happen with Brouwer? He got sent down, didn't report, then there were a few more injuries and he hopped back into the lineup.

Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Jan 26, 2022 3:52 pm

Turk Sanderson wrote: Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:38 pm Paper transaction

Maybe, but this sounds like the type of thing you say when a player might be done:

Didn't the same thing happen with Brouwer? He got sent down, didn't report, then there were a few more injuries and he hopped back into the lineup.

Still Blues property on paper... if they need him, he's there.