Beatoni12 wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:23 pm I'm not worried about him being pissed that he wasn't selected captain, but I am worried that he'd be dumb enough not to see that ROR was the obvious choice and a 100 times more qualified for the job than he was.

Great player for the Blues for a number of years but he's a shell of what he used to be.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:20 pm ROR was seen as a bad teammate and pretty much quit on his team in Buffalo. Hell, he admitted as much. How exactly is he 100 times more qualified to be a captain? I’m not saying he’s a bad one but literally every gripe people have about Tarasenko here, Buffalo had about ROR.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:20 pm ROR was seen as a bad teammate and pretty much quit on his team in Buffalo. Hell, he admitted as much. How exactly is he 100 times more qualified to be a captain? I’m not saying he’s a bad one but literally every gripe people have about Tarasenko here, Buffalo had about ROR.

NHLTIM wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:30 am I don’t care for Vladi any longer. He’s the enemy now and can go get focked. I want him to play for the Blackhawks just to crush the souls of the St. Louis faithful that love him.

NHLTIM wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:30 am I don’t care for Vladi any longer. He’s the enemy now and can go get focked. I want him to play for the Blackhawks just to crush the souls of the St. Louis faithful that love him.

ratonmono wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:58 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:20 pm ROR was seen as a bad teammate and pretty much quit on his team in Buffalo. Hell, he admitted as much. How exactly is he 100 times more qualified to be a captain? I’m not saying he’s a bad one but literally every gripe people have about Tarasenko here, Buffalo had about ROR.

I don’t know if Tarasenko was a bad team mate but their situations were not similar at all. O’Reilly admitted to losing his love of the game playing for an abject failure bottom feeder of a team. Tarasenko allegedly complained about not being named captain of the defending cup champs in favor of a Smythe and Selke winning #1C.

I see O’Reilly as a candid personality. He dogged himself after this years playoffs rightfully so. Tarasenko may have legit gripes with the medical staff but if he was really that upset over not being named captain, well he’s just woefully out of touch.

Hell, I got pissed when DPW was selected as "Favorite Poster" here on BNF instead of me. That guy is a dick and is only liked because his post count is bigger...

Beatoni12 wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:39 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:20 pm ROR was seen as a bad teammate and pretty much quit on his team in Buffalo. Hell, he admitted as much. How exactly is he 100 times more qualified to be a captain? I’m not saying he’s a bad one but literally every gripe people have about Tarasenko here, Buffalo had about ROR.

I've never read one report of him being a bad teammate. As was said above, he said he kinda lost his love of the game playing for a Buffalo team that consistently never had a chance. He never said he quit on his team.

Drubilly wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:32 am

Hell, I got pissed when DPW was selected as "Favorite Poster" here on BNF instead of me. That guy is a dick and is only liked because his post count is bigger...

You gotta admit pirates are pretty fucking cool. As a Tampa area resident I would have thought you’d understand this B-Rad.

bradleygt89 wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:08 am

NHLTIM wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:30 am I don’t care for Vladi any longer. He’s the enemy now and can go get focked. I want him to play for the Blackhawks just to crush the souls of the St. Louis faithful that love him.

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I'll always love Vlad, but I get the sentiment either way. As to the whole captain rumor shit, wasn't that his agent saying that? I'm not sure Vlad was directly quoted as to having been upset. I'm sure like any competitive player who'd been with a team for his entire career had hoped he'd be chosen, but I doubt if he was mad it was ROR.

Hell, I got pissed when DPW was selected as "Favorite Poster" here on BNF instead of me. That guy is a dick and is only liked because his post count is bigger...

Turk Sanderson wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:06 am

NHLTIM wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:30 am I don’t care for Vladi any longer. He’s the enemy now and can go get focked. I want him to play for the Blackhawks just to crush the souls of the St. Louis faithful that love him.

He'll go to Philly, and become best buddies with Your Boy ...and crush your soul.

Beatoni12 wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:39 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:20 pm ROR was seen as a bad teammate and pretty much quit on his team in Buffalo. Hell, he admitted as much. How exactly is he 100 times more qualified to be a captain? I’m not saying he’s a bad one but literally every gripe people have about Tarasenko here, Buffalo had about ROR.

I've never read one report of him being a bad teammate. As was said above, he said he kinda lost his love of the game playing for a Buffalo team that consistently never had a chance. He never said he quit on his team.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:26 am

ratonmono wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:58 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:20 pm ROR was seen as a bad teammate and pretty much quit on his team in Buffalo. Hell, he admitted as much. How exactly is he 100 times more qualified to be a captain? I’m not saying he’s a bad one but literally every gripe people have about Tarasenko here, Buffalo had about ROR.

I don’t know if Tarasenko was a bad team mate but their situations were not similar at all. O’Reilly admitted to losing his love of the game playing for an abject failure bottom feeder of a team. Tarasenko allegedly complained about not being named captain of the defending cup champs in favor of a Smythe and Selke winning #1C.

I see O’Reilly as a candid personality. He dogged himself after this years playoffs rightfully so. Tarasenko may have legit gripes with the medical staff but if he was really that upset over not being named captain, well he’s just woefully out of touch.

So it's okay to give a lack of effort if you're on a struggling team? Doesn't really answer how he's 100 more qualified to be captain than Tarasenko. Tarasenko never quit on his team at least. Hell, when the Blues were dying under the final Hitchcock season, Tarasenko was still busting his ass putting up the most points he'd put up.

It's also "candid" for ROR to speak his mind but when Tarasenko does it, it's not allowed?

Again, I'm not saying ROR is a bad captain, although in his first season as captain this team at many times lacked motivation and direction, but theres nothing to say he's 100 times more qualified than Tarasenko.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:36 am

Beatoni12 wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:39 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:20 pm ROR was seen as a bad teammate and pretty much quit on his team in Buffalo. Hell, he admitted as much. How exactly is he 100 times more qualified to be a captain? I’m not saying he’s a bad one but literally every gripe people have about Tarasenko here, Buffalo had about ROR.

I've never read one report of him being a bad teammate. As was said above, he said he kinda lost his love of the game playing for a Buffalo team that consistently never had a chance. He never said he quit on his team.

He complained about not being given a bigger role in Colorado as well as the friction between him and Duchene. Sabre fans believed there were locker room issues with him and Eichel. Whether they are true or not, we'll never know, just like the "Tarasenko is a bad teammate" gripes. That's the point, all the things said about Tarasenko have been said about ROR. But yet ROR is seen as again, 100 times more captain material. It's kind of nonsense.

Tarasenko plays a different style of game, we've known that since he came in the league, I don't think you can ever question his competitiveness or drive though.

barnburner wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:18 pm

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:36 am

Beatoni12 wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:39 am

I've never read one report of him being a bad teammate. As was said above, he said he kinda lost his love of the game playing for a Buffalo team that consistently never had a chance. He never said he quit on his team.

He complained about not being given a bigger role in Colorado as well as the friction between him and Duchene. Sabre fans believed there were locker room issues with him and Eichel. Whether they are true or not, we'll never know, just like the "Tarasenko is a bad teammate" gripes. That's the point, all the things said about Tarasenko have been said about ROR. But yet ROR is seen as again, 100 times more captain material. It's kind of nonsense.

Tarasenko plays a different style of game, we've known that since he came in the league, I don't think you can ever question his competitiveness or drive though.

Jmo. But he has been a healthy scratch by both Chief and Hitch for lack of effort.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:36 am

Beatoni12 wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:39 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:20 pm ROR was seen as a bad teammate and pretty much quit on his team in Buffalo. Hell, he admitted as much. How exactly is he 100 times more qualified to be a captain? I’m not saying he’s a bad one but literally every gripe people have about Tarasenko here, Buffalo had about ROR.

I've never read one report of him being a bad teammate. As was said above, he said he kinda lost his love of the game playing for a Buffalo team that consistently never had a chance. He never said he quit on his team.

He complained about not being given a bigger role in Colorado as well as the friction between him and Duchene. Sabre fans believed there were locker room issues with him and Eichel. Whether they are true or not, we'll never know, just like the "Tarasenko is a bad teammate" gripes. That's the point, all the things said about Tarasenko have been said about ROR. But yet ROR is seen as again, 100 times more captain material. It's kind of nonsense.

Tarasenko plays a different style of game, we've known that since he came in the league, I don't think you can ever question his competitiveness or drive though.

Beatoni12 wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:33 pm

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:36 am

Beatoni12 wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:39 am

I've never read one report of him being a bad teammate. As was said above, he said he kinda lost his love of the game playing for a Buffalo team that consistently never had a chance. He never said he quit on his team.

He complained about not being given a bigger role in Colorado as well as the friction between him and Duchene. Sabre fans believed there were locker room issues with him and Eichel. Whether they are true or not, we'll never know, just like the "Tarasenko is a bad teammate" gripes. That's the point, all the things said about Tarasenko have been said about ROR. But yet ROR is seen as again, 100 times more captain material. It's kind of nonsense.

Tarasenko plays a different style of game, we've known that since he came in the league, I don't think you can ever question his competitiveness or drive though.

I think its pretty easy to question his competitiveness and drive. He's had many many instances of lackadaisical play away from the puck, which is the opposite of how ROR plays the game. Tarasenko was likely a top 5 player in the league for awhile, and might have peaked in the 2016 series against the Hawks, but since then he's steadily lost his ability to create offence himself and is almost wholly reliant on his linemates to create it for him.

In my eyes, he's been a different player for quite some time. Still effective because of his shot, but nowhere near what he was. I miss the Tarasenko from 2016, but I won't miss the Tarasenko we've seen the last few years.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:22 pm

barnburner wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:18 pm

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:36 am

He complained about not being given a bigger role in Colorado as well as the friction between him and Duchene. Sabre fans believed there were locker room issues with him and Eichel. Whether they are true or not, we'll never know, just like the "Tarasenko is a bad teammate" gripes. That's the point, all the things said about Tarasenko have been said about ROR. But yet ROR is seen as again, 100 times more captain material. It's kind of nonsense.

Tarasenko plays a different style of game, we've known that since he came in the league, I don't think you can ever question his competitiveness or drive though.

Jmo. But he has been a healthy scratch by both Chief and Hitch for lack of effort.

He hasn’t taken a single healthy shift under Berube.