BillP. wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 12:37 pm Faulk is a plus 30 and Krug is a plus 21. Just saw that and that's impressive. Parayko minus 13. Head scratcher......................

Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:16 pm

BillP. wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 12:37 pm Faulk is a plus 30 and Krug is a plus 21. Just saw that and that's impressive. Parayko minus 13. Head scratcher......................

Two of those guys start most shifts in the offensive zone against weaker opponents. The other guy starts most shifts in the D-zone against the opposition's best players...and played a lot with Marco Scandella earlier in the year.

Having said that Faulk/Krug have been very good and Paryako hasn't been. It'll be interesting to see how he fares with a new partner around the deadline.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:06 pm

Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:16 pm

BillP. wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 12:37 pm Faulk is a plus 30 and Krug is a plus 21. Just saw that and that's impressive. Parayko minus 13. Head scratcher......................

Two of those guys start most shifts in the offensive zone against weaker opponents. The other guy starts most shifts in the D-zone against the opposition's best players...and played a lot with Marco Scandella earlier in the year.

Having said that Faulk/Krug have been very good and Paryako hasn't been. It'll be interesting to see how he fares with a new partner around the deadline.

If that truly mattered much pretty much every top pairing D man would be a minus then.

Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:36 pm

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:06 pm

Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:16 pm

Two of those guys start most shifts in the offensive zone against weaker opponents. The other guy starts most shifts in the D-zone against the opposition's best players...and played a lot with Marco Scandella earlier in the year.

Having said that Faulk/Krug have been very good and Paryako hasn't been. It'll be interesting to see how he fares with a new partner around the deadline.

If that truly mattered much pretty much every top pairing D man would be a minus then.

Only the ones that play with Scandella...plus the bit about Faulk/Krug playing well and Parayko not playing well. Hell most shifts start on the fly anyway, but taking all those D-Zone starts doesn't make life any easier. Parayko has had a disappointing season, but is starting to show signs of turning things around.

RAFritchey wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 5:37 pm

Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:36 pm

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:06 pm

If that truly mattered much pretty much every top pairing D man would be a minus then.

Only the ones that play with Scandella...plus the bit about Faulk/Krug playing well and Parayko not playing well. Hell most shifts start on the fly anyway, but taking all those D-Zone starts doesn't make life any easier. Parayko has had a disappointing season, but is starting to show signs of turning things around.

Getting a solid blueliner that can play with Parayko and help him play closer to his potential is arguably the last thing this team needs.

RAFritchey wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 5:37 pm

Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:36 pm

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:06 pm

If that truly mattered much pretty much every top pairing D man would be a minus then.

Only the ones that play with Scandella...plus the bit about Faulk/Krug playing well and Parayko not playing well. Hell most shifts start on the fly anyway, but taking all those D-Zone starts doesn't make life any easier. Parayko has had a disappointing season, but is starting to show signs of turning things around.

Getting a solid blueliner that can play with Parayko and help him play closer to his potential is arguably the last thing this team needs.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:37 pm

RAFritchey wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 5:37 pm

Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:36 pm

Only the ones that play with Scandella...plus the bit about Faulk/Krug playing well and Parayko not playing well. Hell most shifts start on the fly anyway, but taking all those D-Zone starts doesn't make life any easier. Parayko has had a disappointing season, but is starting to show signs of turning things around.

Getting a solid blueliner that can play with Parayko and help him play closer to his potential is arguably the last thing this team needs.

What??

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:37 pm

RAFritchey wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 5:37 pm

Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:36 pm

Only the ones that play with Scandella...plus the bit about Faulk/Krug playing well and Parayko not playing well. Hell most shifts start on the fly anyway, but taking all those D-Zone starts doesn't make life any easier. Parayko has had a disappointing season, but is starting to show signs of turning things around.

Getting a solid blueliner that can play with Parayko and help him play closer to his potential is arguably the last thing this team needs.

What??

T.C. wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:12 am I like giroux, but he comes here, who do you take out?

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:49 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:37 pm

RAFritchey wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 5:37 pm
Getting a solid blueliner that can play with Parayko and help him play closer to his potential is arguably the last thing this team needs.

What??

oooo you meant like, last piece of the puzzle. I read that completely different originally.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:16 am Id move SunnyD in a deal for Giroux

Turk Sanderson wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:18 pm

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:16 am Id move SunnyD in a deal for Giroux

Sunny is a player that you don't miss when he's hurt, but you notice how good he is when he comes back... that said, his long-term health is an issue considering the surgeries and concussions he's had, and the way he plays the game. I don't see Army going after Giroux unless he's gonna re-sign him to a deal with some term, and a few major pieces will have to be packing their bags this summer for that to happen.... Perron??? Binner???

RAFritchey wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:24 pm

Turk Sanderson wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:18 pm

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:16 am Id move SunnyD in a deal for Giroux

Sunny is a player that you don't miss when he's hurt, but you notice how good he is when he comes back... that said, his long-term health is an issue considering the surgeries and concussions he's had, and the way he plays the game. I don't see Army going after Giroux unless he's gonna re-sign him to a deal with some term, and a few major pieces will have to be packing their bags this summer for that to happen.... Perron??? Binner???

Neal and Bozak likely won't return, unless they're late-off-season depth signings again.

Ideally, Scandella will be a part of any trade to shore up our Blueline.

Perron's contract will also be up, He'll be 34, but has been a great value so far at $4 mil/yr on his last contract, especially last season. He had 18 points in his first 20 games this season before his injury, but only 4 points in 14 games since he returned (he was out on Covid protocol for a couple of games, too). If he bounces back a bit more, I could see the Blues re-signing him for a year or two if he'll take a bit less than he's making now. OR, they could trade him, and then re-sign him again in the off-season, which they've done, what, like 3 times now already?

In goal, Husso and Lindgren will both be UFAs this summer, It'd be great to be able to keep both of them based on their performances this season, but will we be able to if we're committed to Binnington as well?

You never want to lose a player of his caliber, but if Tarasenko still wants to be part of a different franchise this Summer, his asking for a trade may be a blessing in disguise. He's still a great value at $7.5 mil for what he brings for another year, but, barring injuries or a severe downturn in performance, he should still be worth a TON in trade, hopefully a package that could keep the Blues at an elite-level overall for several more years to come.

RAFritchey wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:24 pm

Turk Sanderson wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:18 pm

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:16 am Id move SunnyD in a deal for Giroux

Sunny is a player that you don't miss when he's hurt, but you notice how good he is when he comes back... that said, his long-term health is an issue considering the surgeries and concussions he's had, and the way he plays the game. I don't see Army going after Giroux unless he's gonna re-sign him to a deal with some term, and a few major pieces will have to be packing their bags this summer for that to happen.... Perron??? Binner???

Neal and Bozak likely won't return, unless they're late-off-season depth signings again.

Ideally, Scandella will be a part of any trade to shore up our Blueline.

Perron's contract will also be up, He'll be 34, but has been a great value so far at $4 mil/yr on his last contract, especially last season. He had 18 points in his first 20 games this season before his injury, but only 4 points in 14 games since he returned (he was out on Covid protocol for a couple of games, too). If he bounces back a bit more, I could see the Blues re-signing him for a year or two if he'll take a bit less than he's making now. OR, they could trade him, and then re-sign him again in the off-season, which they've done, what, like 3 times now already?

In goal, Husso and Lindgren will both be UFAs this summer, It'd be great to be able to keep both of them based on their performances this season, but will we be able to if we're committed to Binnington as well?

You never want to lose a player of his caliber, but if Tarasenko still wants to be part of a different franchise this Summer, his asking for a trade may be a blessing in disguise. He's still a great value at $7.5 mil for what he brings for another year, but, barring injuries or a severe downturn in performance, he should still be worth a TON in trade, hopefully a package that could keep the Blues at an elite-level overall for several more years to come.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:45 pm

RAFritchey wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:24 pm

Turk Sanderson wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:18 pm

Sunny is a player that you don't miss when he's hurt, but you notice how good he is when he comes back... that said, his long-term health is an issue considering the surgeries and concussions he's had, and the way he plays the game. I don't see Army going after Giroux unless he's gonna re-sign him to a deal with some term, and a few major pieces will have to be packing their bags this summer for that to happen.... Perron??? Binner???

Neal and Bozak likely won't return, unless they're late-off-season depth signings again.

Ideally, Scandella will be a part of any trade to shore up our Blueline.

Perron's contract will also be up, He'll be 34, but has been a great value so far at $4 mil/yr on his last contract, especially last season. He had 18 points in his first 20 games this season before his injury, but only 4 points in 14 games since he returned (he was out on Covid protocol for a couple of games, too). If he bounces back a bit more, I could see the Blues re-signing him for a year or two if he'll take a bit less than he's making now. OR, they could trade him, and then re-sign him again in the off-season, which they've done, what, like 3 times now already?

In goal, Husso and Lindgren will both be UFAs this summer, It'd be great to be able to keep both of them based on their performances this season, but will we be able to if we're committed to Binnington as well?

You never want to lose a player of his caliber, but if Tarasenko still wants to be part of a different franchise this Summer, his asking for a trade may be a blessing in disguise. He's still a great value at $7.5 mil for what he brings for another year, but, barring injuries or a severe downturn in performance, he should still be worth a TON in trade, hopefully a package that could keep the Blues at an elite-level overall for several more years to come.

Husso is a problem. If he continues to play like he is playing you're likely to lose him this offseason unless they decide to and can trade JB50's contract. Don't see a way to keep both.

Turk Sanderson wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:18 pm

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:16 am Id move SunnyD in a deal for Giroux

Sunny is a player that you don't miss when he's hurt, but you notice how good he is when he comes back... that said, his long-term health is an issue considering the surgeries and concussions he's had, and the way he plays the game. I don't see Army going after Giroux unless he's gonna re-sign him to a deal with some term, and a few major pieces will have to be packing their bags this summer for that to happen.... Perron??? Binner???

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:45 pm

RAFritchey wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:24 pm

Turk Sanderson wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:18 pm

Sunny is a player that you don't miss when he's hurt, but you notice how good he is when he comes back... that said, his long-term health is an issue considering the surgeries and concussions he's had, and the way he plays the game. I don't see Army going after Giroux unless he's gonna re-sign him to a deal with some term, and a few major pieces will have to be packing their bags this summer for that to happen.... Perron??? Binner???

Neal and Bozak likely won't return, unless they're late-off-season depth signings again.

Ideally, Scandella will be a part of any trade to shore up our Blueline.

Perron's contract will also be up, He'll be 34, but has been a great value so far at $4 mil/yr on his last contract, especially last season. He had 18 points in his first 20 games this season before his injury, but only 4 points in 14 games since he returned (he was out on Covid protocol for a couple of games, too). If he bounces back a bit more, I could see the Blues re-signing him for a year or two if he'll take a bit less than he's making now. OR, they could trade him, and then re-sign him again in the off-season, which they've done, what, like 3 times now already?

In goal, Husso and Lindgren will both be UFAs this summer, It'd be great to be able to keep both of them based on their performances this season, but will we be able to if we're committed to Binnington as well?

You never want to lose a player of his caliber, but if Tarasenko still wants to be part of a different franchise this Summer, his asking for a trade may be a blessing in disguise. He's still a great value at $7.5 mil for what he brings for another year, but, barring injuries or a severe downturn in performance, he should still be worth a TON in trade, hopefully a package that could keep the Blues at an elite-level overall for several more years to come.

Husso is a problem. If he continues to play like he is playing you're likely to lose him this offseason unless they decide to and can trade JB50's contract. Don't see a way to keep both.

Turk Sanderson wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:38 pm

RAFritchey wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:24 pm

Turk Sanderson wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:18 pm

Sunny is a player that you don't miss when he's hurt, but you notice how good he is when he comes back... that said, his long-term health is an issue considering the surgeries and concussions he's had, and the way he plays the game. I don't see Army going after Giroux unless he's gonna re-sign him to a deal with some term, and a few major pieces will have to be packing their bags this summer for that to happen.... Perron??? Binner???

Neal and Bozak likely won't return, unless they're late-off-season depth signings again.

Ideally, Scandella will be a part of any trade to shore up our Blueline.

Perron's contract will also be up, He'll be 34, but has been a great value so far at $4 mil/yr on his last contract, especially last season. He had 18 points in his first 20 games this season before his injury, but only 4 points in 14 games since he returned (he was out on Covid protocol for a couple of games, too). If he bounces back a bit more, I could see the Blues re-signing him for a year or two if he'll take a bit less than he's making now. OR, they could trade him, and then re-sign him again in the off-season, which they've done, what, like 3 times now already?

In goal, Husso and Lindgren will both be UFAs this summer, It'd be great to be able to keep both of them based on their performances this season, but will we be able to if we're committed to Binnington as well?

You never want to lose a player of his caliber, but if Tarasenko still wants to be part of a different franchise this Summer, his asking for a trade may be a blessing in disguise. He's still a great value at $7.5 mil for what he brings for another year, but, barring injuries or a severe downturn in performance, he should still be worth a TON in trade, hopefully a package that could keep the Blues at an elite-level overall for several more years to come.

As much as I've liked Perron 3.0, he's always a penalty waiting to happen.... i wish he'd be past that by now, but he is what he is.

Turk Sanderson wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:55 pm

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:45 pm

RAFritchey wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:24 pm

Neal and Bozak likely won't return, unless they're late-off-season depth signings again.

Ideally, Scandella will be a part of any trade to shore up our Blueline.

Perron's contract will also be up, He'll be 34, but has been a great value so far at $4 mil/yr on his last contract, especially last season. He had 18 points in his first 20 games this season before his injury, but only 4 points in 14 games since he returned (he was out on Covid protocol for a couple of games, too). If he bounces back a bit more, I could see the Blues re-signing him for a year or two if he'll take a bit less than he's making now. OR, they could trade him, and then re-sign him again in the off-season, which they've done, what, like 3 times now already?

In goal, Husso and Lindgren will both be UFAs this summer, It'd be great to be able to keep both of them based on their performances this season, but will we be able to if we're committed to Binnington as well?

You never want to lose a player of his caliber, but if Tarasenko still wants to be part of a different franchise this Summer, his asking for a trade may be a blessing in disguise. He's still a great value at $7.5 mil for what he brings for another year, but, barring injuries or a severe downturn in performance, he should still be worth a TON in trade, hopefully a package that could keep the Blues at an elite-level overall for several more years to come.

Husso is a problem. If he continues to play like he is playing you're likely to lose him this offseason unless they decide to and can trade JB50's contract. Don't see a way to keep both.

Binner and his contract would fetch a king's ransom at the trade deadline.

Dave's a mess wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:22 pm

Turk Sanderson wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:55 pm

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:45 pm

Husso is a problem. If he continues to play like he is playing you're likely to lose him this offseason unless they decide to and can trade JB50's contract. Don't see a way to keep both.

Binner and his contract would fetch a king's ransom at the trade deadline.

Would they? This isn't a "Binnington sucks" post, I just don't know that his contract is highly regarded around the league. He's not a top 15 goalie right now, and I don't know that GMs are lining up for an inconsistent 28 year old with 5 years left.