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Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:48 am
by RAFritchey
People watching today might not realize what a big deal Ilya Kovalchuk was in the 2000's, too, or when Jason Spezza was a bona-fide point-per-game scoring threat. They're both shadows of what they used to be.

Jason Allison is another forgotten name from that decade as well.

Likewise Mats Sundin. He was kind of a big deal back then, too, who retired in 2009.

Marcus Naslund was another player who retired in 2009 who had some great years, especially in Vancouver.

And who could forget Olaf "Olie the goalie" Kolzig and J.S. Giguerre in net?

And they've probably heard of Chris Pronger and Al MacInnis, being Blues fans, but what about Sergei Gonchar and Rob Blake, two of my favorites as well.

Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:17 am
by BluesSK
Jason Allison like Heatley was only as good until their skating legs went.

After that it was downhill fast.

Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:41 am
by UMSLBlues12
Stars just fired Montgomery. This statement makes it sound like they're trying to get out in front of some misconduct allegations...

"The Dallas Stars expect all of our employees to act with integrity and exhibit professional behavior while working for and representing our organization. This decision was made due to unprofessional conduct inconsistent with the core values and beliefs of the Dallas Stars and the National Hockey League."

https://www.nhl.com/stars/news/jim-mont ... -312388186

Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:51 am
by Dread_Pirate_Westley
UMSLBlues12 wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:41 am Stars just fired Montgomery. This statement makes it sound like they're trying to get out in front of some misconduct allegations...

"The Dallas Stars expect all of our employees to act with integrity and exhibit professional behavior while working for and representing our organization. This decision was made due to unprofessional conduct inconsistent with the core values and beliefs of the Dallas Stars and the National Hockey League."

https://www.nhl.com/stars/news/jim-mont ... -312388186
Certainly an interesting development. I thought he was going to be canned from their dreadful start, but they turned it around just in time to save his job long enough for him to eff it all up himself.

Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:05 am
by Dave's a mess


I read that as "he didn't hit anybody or use any racial/ethnic slurs". If he were just an asshole he'd still be around. There are plenty of possibilities that fall under "unprofessional conduct", but how many that aren't categorized as abuse that would warrant the firing of a damn good coach.

Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:14 am
by UMSLBlues12
My favorite memory of Jim Montgomery will be after one of the playoff games, a reporter telling Binnington something that Montgomery said about him. Binnington's response was "whose Montgomery?" Guy was so dialed in during the playoffs he didn't even know the name of the opposing team's coach. :lol:

Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:17 am
by BillP.
So what did Montgomery do? Who’s next? Better not here any shit on Berube.

Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:27 am
by Dread_Pirate_Westley
Montgomery took off his skate in practice and stabbed a guy.

Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:29 am
by NHLTIM
So somebody called Bettman’s 1-800-ButtHurt hotline and dished out dirt on Montgomery....shocker
As the great Ken Hitchcock said...
“They’re coming for everybody”

Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:30 am
by SpacemanSpiff
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:27 am Montgomery took off his skate in practice and stabbed a guy.
The unsolicated skate attack - happens all the time.

The NHL came out and stated that if organizations didn't report misdeeds, the penalties would be severe - I suppose they knew of something.

Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:37 am
by MattyIce
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:27 am Montgomery took off his skate in practice and stabbed a guy.
What kind of pussy world do we live in where a coach gets in trouble for a good ole fashioned stabbing?
Herb Brooks willed the Americans to gold by stabbing a player right in the heart in 1980. :lol:

Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:38 am
by Dave's a mess
NHLTIM wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:29 am So somebody called Bettman’s 1-800-ButtHurt hotline and dished out dirt on Montgomery....shocker
As the great Ken Hitchcock said...
“They’re coming for everybody”
I have a feeling this will fall into another category. LeBrun/Dreger have said this doesn't fall under the whistle-blower thing they're trying to roll out. This sounds to me like its something that has nothing to do with what he does behind the bench or in the locker room. Every player I've heard talk about Montgomery raves about him. I have no specific insights on this of course, but I have the feeling this is a very off the ice situation.

Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:40 am
by MattyIce
Dave's a mess wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:38 am
NHLTIM wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:29 am So somebody called Bettman’s 1-800-ButtHurt hotline and dished out dirt on Montgomery....shocker
As the great Ken Hitchcock said...
“They’re coming for everybody”
I have a feeling this will fall into another category. LeBrun/Dreger have said this doesn't fall under the whistle-blower thing they're trying to roll out. This sounds to me like its something that has nothing to do with what he does behind the bench or in the locker room. Every player I've heard talk about Montgomery raves about him. I have no specific insights on this of course, but I have the feeling this is a very off the ice situation.
Some kind of misconduct with a woman is my bet.

Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:41 am
by Dread_Pirate_Westley
Montgomery had sex with the babysitter

Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:46 am
by UMSLBlues12
Yeah, with the Stars statement saying something about "representing the organization" that made me think it had something to do with off-ice things. Obviously I'm totally speculating.

Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:56 am
by UMSLBlues12

Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:59 am
by Dread_Pirate_Westley
Montgomery is Q

Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:00 am
by NHLTIM
It will most likely be some sort of abuse....obviously sexual misconduct or something.

Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:05 am
by Dread_Pirate_Westley
NHLTIM wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:00 am It will most likely be some sort of abuse....obviously sexual misconduct or something.
If it's something like that, it's a good thing someone brought it to light.

Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:06 am
by BluesSK
It better be something really raunchy for how they are building this all up.

Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:09 am
by ratonmono
Jimmy got caught with the babysitter didn't he?

Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:12 am
by UMSLBlues12





Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:13 am
by UMSLBlues12
What could a coach do off the ice that is bad enough to get him fired but not bad enough that there is no criminal investigation (which makes it sound like it probably isn't sexual assault).

Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:17 am
by Dread_Pirate_Westley
UMSLBlues12 wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:13 am What could a coach do off the ice that is bad enough to get him fired but not bad enough that there is no criminal investigation (which makes it sound like it probably isn't sexual assault).
Played Nickleback on the team bus.

Re: News and Games around the NHL

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:17 am
by NHLTIM
No other Stars employee involved. Weird situation....because he hasn’t been charged with anything.