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Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:36 pm
by Dave's a mess
BillP. wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:06 pm
Dave's a mess wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:55 am
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:26 am
Edmonton is in the top 4. Blues, Lanche, Vegas, Oil
Dallas beat Edmonton out based on points percentage. They are the top seed in the play-in, facing the Hawks. Regarding the question, I could see Minnesota being frustratingly plucky, and Calgary could be trouble if Gaudreau has gotten his shit together over the pause. I was tempted to mention the Jets, but the only reason they're still alive is Hellebuyck standing on his head all year. If he's even just above average they're in trouble.
Dave, here's an interesting thread found in the Poll thread on HF Boards.
Draft eligible players since 2010, Team Europe vs NA. Who do you take?
I'm in the minority here as in the poll, it's like 68-20 NA. But I think Team Europe rocks here. I think they're more explosive and that PP would be unstoppable. What's your take?
TEAM EUROPE
Panarin - Draisaitl - Kucherov
Aho - Barkov - Pasternak
Rantanen - Pettersson - Laine
Kuznetsov - Zibanejad - Tarasenko
Heiskanen - Dahlin
Klingberg - Sergachev
Klefbom - Provorov
Vasilevskiy
TEAM NA
MacKinnon - McDavid - Seguin
Matthews - Eichel - Marner
Hall - Scheifele - M.Tkachuk
Huberdeau - Point - Konecny
Chabot - Jones
Rielly- Hamilton
Hughes - Makar
Gibson
Sheesh. That's such a crazy good group of players. I think the Euro forward group is a little more well rounded but less explosive. I'll call the forwards a push. On the back end however. TNA runs away with it. The Euro D group is skilled, but the NA D group is insane. Vasy has had better numbers overall, but I think Gibson was the best goalie in the league in 2018-19 behind a trainwreck of a team. I like the North Americans in 6.
Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:49 pm
by Dave's a mess
Logic prevails:
Since the top 4 will probably re-seed themselves due to the round robin, it's not totally logical, but it's as good as we're going to get.
Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:17 pm
by NHLTIM
BillP. wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:06 pm
Dave's a mess wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:55 am
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:26 am
Edmonton is in the top 4. Blues, Lanche, Vegas, Oil
Dallas beat Edmonton out based on points percentage. They are the top seed in the play-in, facing the Hawks. Regarding the question, I could see Minnesota being frustratingly plucky, and Calgary could be trouble if Gaudreau has gotten his shit together over the pause. I was tempted to mention the Jets, but the only reason they're still alive is Hellebuyck standing on his head all year. If he's even just above average they're in trouble.
Dave, here's an interesting thread found in the Poll thread on HF Boards.
Draft eligible players since 2010, Team Europe vs NA. Who do you take?
I'm in the minority here as in the poll, it's like 68-20 NA. But I think Team Europe rocks here. I think they're more explosive and that PP would be unstoppable. What's your take?
TEAM EUROPE
Panarin - Draisaitl - Kucherov
Aho - Barkov - Pasternak
Rantanen - Pettersson - Laine
Kuznetsov - Zibanejad - Tarasenko
Heiskanen - Dahlin
Klingberg - Sergachev
Klefbom - Provorov
Vasilevskiy
TEAM NA
MacKinnon - McDavid - Seguin
Matthews - Eichel - Marner
Hall - Scheifele - M.Tkachuk
Huberdeau - Point - Konecny
Chabot - Jones
Rielly- Hamilton
Hughes - Makar
Gibson
That’s a sweep for North America . Team Europe is a one line team. I’d target Aho and Pettersson and hit the fuck out of them until they wilt....that will kill lines 2 and 3. Their 4th line is shit so no problem there. Then target Heiskanen and Dahlin and now their defense is fucked.
Matthews would also be centering line 2.....and Hall is moving up to that line as well.
Team NA baby!!!!
Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:20 pm
by BillP.
Dave's a mess wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:36 pm
BillP. wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:06 pm
Dave's a mess wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:55 am
Dallas beat Edmonton out based on points percentage. They are the top seed in the play-in, facing the Hawks. Regarding the question, I could see Minnesota being frustratingly plucky, and Calgary could be trouble if Gaudreau has gotten his shit together over the pause. I was tempted to mention the Jets, but the only reason they're still alive is Hellebuyck standing on his head all year. If he's even just above average they're in trouble.
Dave, here's an interesting thread found in the Poll thread on HF Boards.
Draft eligible players since 2010, Team Europe vs NA. Who do you take?
I'm in the minority here as in the poll, it's like 68-20 NA. But I think Team Europe rocks here. I think they're more explosive and that PP would be unstoppable. What's your take?
TEAM EUROPE
Panarin - Draisaitl - Kucherov
Aho - Barkov - Pasternak
Rantanen - Pettersson - Laine
Kuznetsov - Zibanejad - Tarasenko
Heiskanen - Dahlin
Klingberg - Sergachev
Klefbom - Provorov
Vasilevskiy
TEAM NA
MacKinnon - McDavid - Seguin
Matthews - Eichel - Marner
Hall - Scheifele - M.Tkachuk
Huberdeau - Point - Konecny
Chabot - Jones
Rielly- Hamilton
Hughes - Makar
Gibson
Sheesh. That's such a crazy good group of players. I think the Euro forward group is a little more well rounded but less explosive. I'll call the forwards a push. On the back end however. TNA runs away with it. The Euro D group is skilled, but the NA D group is insane. Vasy has had better numbers overall, but I think Gibson was the best goalie in the league in 2018-19 behind a trainwreck of a team. I like the North Americans in 6.
Ha, was wondering what your take was. Guess that's why NA is winning the poll. But Tarasenko and that 4th line is crazy good, and then with Pasta and Panarin running the 2 PP units. I'm bullish on Team Europe. Wish we could actually see this play out.
Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:23 pm
by BillP.
NHLTIM wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:17 pm
BillP. wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:06 pm
Dave's a mess wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:55 am
Dallas beat Edmonton out based on points percentage. They are the top seed in the play-in, facing the Hawks. Regarding the question, I could see Minnesota being frustratingly plucky, and Calgary could be trouble if Gaudreau has gotten his shit together over the pause. I was tempted to mention the Jets, but the only reason they're still alive is Hellebuyck standing on his head all year. If he's even just above average they're in trouble.
Dave, here's an interesting thread found in the Poll thread on HF Boards.
Draft eligible players since 2010, Team Europe vs NA. Who do you take?
I'm in the minority here as in the poll, it's like 68-20 NA. But I think Team Europe rocks here. I think they're more explosive and that PP would be unstoppable. What's your take?
TEAM EUROPE
Panarin - Draisaitl - Kucherov
Aho - Barkov - Pasternak
Rantanen - Pettersson - Laine
Kuznetsov - Zibanejad - Tarasenko
Heiskanen - Dahlin
Klingberg - Sergachev
Klefbom - Provorov
Vasilevskiy
TEAM NA
MacKinnon - McDavid - Seguin
Matthews - Eichel - Marner
Hall - Scheifele - M.Tkachuk
Huberdeau - Point - Konecny
Chabot - Jones
Rielly- Hamilton
Hughes - Makar
Gibson
That’s a sweep for North America . Team Europe is a one line team. I’d target Aho and Pettersson and hit the fuck out of them until they wilt....that will kill lines 2 and 3. Their 4th line is shit so no problem there. Then target Heiskanen and Dahlin and now their defense is fucked.
Matthews would also be centering line 2.....and Hall is moving up to that line as well.
Team NA baby!!!!
You make a good case, if they play for keeps and got physical, Team NA would have the edge.
Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:28 pm
by Dave's a mess
NHLTIM wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:17 pm
BillP. wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:06 pm
Dave's a mess wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:55 am
Dallas beat Edmonton out based on points percentage. They are the top seed in the play-in, facing the Hawks. Regarding the question, I could see Minnesota being frustratingly plucky, and Calgary could be trouble if Gaudreau has gotten his shit together over the pause. I was tempted to mention the Jets, but the only reason they're still alive is Hellebuyck standing on his head all year. If he's even just above average they're in trouble.
Dave, here's an interesting thread found in the Poll thread on HF Boards.
Draft eligible players since 2010, Team Europe vs NA. Who do you take?
I'm in the minority here as in the poll, it's like 68-20 NA. But I think Team Europe rocks here. I think they're more explosive and that PP would be unstoppable. What's your take?
TEAM EUROPE
Panarin - Draisaitl - Kucherov
Aho - Barkov - Pasternak
Rantanen - Pettersson - Laine
Kuznetsov - Zibanejad - Tarasenko
Heiskanen - Dahlin
Klingberg - Sergachev
Klefbom - Provorov
Vasilevskiy
TEAM NA
MacKinnon - McDavid - Seguin
Matthews - Eichel - Marner
Hall - Scheifele - M.Tkachuk
Huberdeau - Point - Konecny
Chabot - Jones
Rielly- Hamilton
Hughes - Makar
Gibson
That’s a sweep for North America . Team Europe is a one line team. I’d target Aho and Pettersson and hit the fuck out of them until they wilt....that will kill lines 2 and 3. Their 4th line is shit so no problem there. Then target Heiskanen and Dahlin and now their defense is fucked.
Matthews would also be centering line 2.....and Hall is moving up to that line as well.
Team NA baby!!!!
A fine strategy, but not if there are only 2 forwards on your roster that have ever delivered a body check.
Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:51 pm
by NHLTIM
Dave's a mess wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:28 pm
NHLTIM wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:17 pm
BillP. wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:06 pm
Dave, here's an interesting thread found in the Poll thread on HF Boards.
Draft eligible players since 2010, Team Europe vs NA. Who do you take?
I'm in the minority here as in the poll, it's like 68-20 NA. But I think Team Europe rocks here. I think they're more explosive and that PP would be unstoppable. What's your take?
TEAM EUROPE
Panarin - Draisaitl - Kucherov
Aho - Barkov - Pasternak
Rantanen - Pettersson - Laine
Kuznetsov - Zibanejad - Tarasenko
Heiskanen - Dahlin
Klingberg - Sergachev
Klefbom - Provorov
Vasilevskiy
TEAM NA
MacKinnon - McDavid - Seguin
Matthews - Eichel - Marner
Hall - Scheifele - M.Tkachuk
Huberdeau - Point - Konecny
Chabot - Jones
Rielly- Hamilton
Hughes - Makar
Gibson
That’s a sweep for North America . Team Europe is a one line team. I’d target Aho and Pettersson and hit the fuck out of them until they wilt....that will kill lines 2 and 3. Their 4th line is shit so no problem there. Then target Heiskanen and Dahlin and now their defense is fucked.
Matthews would also be centering line 2.....and Hall is moving up to that line as well.
Team NA baby!!!!
A fine strategy, but not if there are only 2 forwards on your roster that have ever delivered a body check.
Tkachuk and my boy Travis Konecny is all you need to make it happen.
Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:17 pm
by Dave's a mess
NHLTIM wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:51 pm
Dave's a mess wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:28 pm
NHLTIM wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:17 pm
That’s a sweep for North America . Team Europe is a one line team. I’d target Aho and Pettersson and hit the fuck out of them until they wilt....that will kill lines 2 and 3. Their 4th line is shit so no problem there. Then target Heiskanen and Dahlin and now their defense is fucked.
Matthews would also be centering line 2.....and Hall is moving up to that line as well.
Team NA baby!!!!
A fine strategy, but not if there are only 2 forwards on your roster that have ever delivered a body check.
Tkachuk and my boy Travis Konecny is all you need to make it happen.
I think every game would have as many goals as there were hits. It would be different than an all-star game though, so I'd still watch. Interestingly (or perhaps not), I only count 3 Cup winners on those rosters (Tarasenko, Seguin, Panarin). Seguin was a rookie and was scratched for about half the playoffs too, so he only gets half credit. I guess the moral of the story is TNA doesn't know what it takes like those Russians do
That or TNA should add Robert Thomas.
Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:04 pm
by CaptSMRT
Worst take of all time.
Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:52 pm
by MattyIce
CaptSMRT wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:04 pm
Worst take of all time.
I concur.
MAYBE the hockey robots, but definitely not the glow puck.
Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:38 am
by NHLTIM
Just saw that Chris Cuthbert has left TSN and joined Sportsnet. Pretty sure that means no more game on NBC for him and that sucks for all of us. He is one of the very best there is at calling games.
Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:55 pm
by Ozzies09tc
CaptSMRT wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:04 pm
Worst take of all time.
I understand WHY they want to implement something like this, but there HAS to be a better way....ugh
Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:19 pm
by Ozzies09tc
Watching game 4 ana vs det wcqf from 03 and i gotta say... fuck the trapezoids
Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:36 pm
by JMC-STL
FIFY ...
Ozzies09tc wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:19 pmWatching game 4 ana vs det wcqf from 03 and i gotta say...
fuck the Corona
Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:21 pm
by Ozzies09tc
Touche'
Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:28 pm
by Dread_Pirate_Westley
How much do you think players will care about the playoffs this year?
For example, I was thinking normally guys play through pretty much any injury for a stanley cup playoffs, do you think that'll be the case this year? Or will guys be more open to shutting it down if they get injured?
Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:42 pm
by Dave's a mess
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:28 pm
How much do you think players will care about the playoffs this year?
For example, I was thinking normally guys play through pretty much any injury for a stanley cup playoffs, do you think that'll be the case this year?
Or will guys be more open to shutting it down if they get injured?
Only if they don't get their name on that shiny trophy if they win.
Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:52 pm
by Turk Sanderson
If I was Petro, I'd want my new contract before I go play in a gimmick tournament after such a long layoff.
Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:07 am
by BillP.
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:28 pm
How much do you think players will care about the playoffs this year?
For example, I was thinking normally guys play through pretty much any injury for a stanley cup playoffs, do you think that'll be the case this year? Or will guys be more open to shutting it down if they get injured?
How bout the flip side? How many injuries will occur when the playoffs advance and things heat up? I expect the first round to start off passive, but eventually somewhere down the line, things will heat up. Hockey is in their blood, the competitive nature just takes over , at some point the intensity will ramp up.
Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:15 am
by Dave's a mess
Here's a little fancy stats summary of all the teams that got byes in the West. Blue line is the team's expected goals for (I assume a rolling average) and the red line is expected goals against. This measures how well the skaters are playing, but does not account for goaltending.
The whole thread is an easy way to refresh your memory on how teams played throughout the season. Handy since it's been so long. It's also a pretty strong argument for giving Connor Hellebuyck the Hart.
Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:08 am
by BillP.
Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:15 am
Here's a little fancy stats summary of all the teams that got byes in the West. Blue line is the team's expected goals for (I assume a rolling average) and the red line is expected goals against. This measures how well the skaters are playing, but does not account for goaltending.
The whole thread is an easy way to refresh your memory on how teams played throughout the season. Handy since it's been so long. It's also a pretty strong argument for giving Connor Hellebuyck the Hart.
Is this just measured by shots for and against basically?
Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:14 am
by Dave's a mess
BillP. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:08 am
Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:15 am
Here's a little fancy stats summary of all the teams that got byes in the West. Blue line is the team's expected goals for (I assume a rolling average) and the red line is expected goals against. This measures how well the skaters are playing, but does not account for goaltending.
The whole thread is an easy way to refresh your memory on how teams played throughout the season. Handy since it's been so long. It's also a pretty strong argument for giving Connor Hellebuyck the Hart.
Is this just measured by shots for and against basically?
That's part of it, but it measures the quality of the shot in terms of where it was coming from. More value in a high danger chance than one from the blue line. You don't get any real credit for dumping the puck on net from center ice before you go on a line change like you would if you were just measuring Corsi for instance.
Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:00 pm
by Dave's a mess
Training camps for restart begin in a month...maybe.
Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:31 pm
by Dread_Pirate_Westley
So when a team wins the Stanley Cup, will they still be allowed to kiss it and pass it around in the empty arena or will that be banned? Will there be a parade? Will players get to have their day with the cup or will next season have started already?
Re: News and Games around the NHL
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:39 pm
by NHLTIM
Lol at these clowns starting the season in freaking August. Just wait another month and give us a full season for 20/21.