NHLTIM wrote:

Dave's a mess wrote:

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote:OFFICIAL: The Blackhawks have acquired Marcus Kruger, MacKenzie Entwistle, Jordan Maletta, Andrew Campbell and a 2019 fifth-round draft pick from Arizona in exchange for Marian Hossa, Vinnie Hinostroza, Jordan Oesterle and a 2019 third-round pick.

FYI, I just checked on all of those guys that all of you, like myself, had probably never heard of before reading about the trade. They all suck. Weird trade. Arizona gets the 2 best pieces in my eyes in Hinostroza and the pick. Oesterle is useful as well. Bizarre.

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Dave's a mess wrote:

NHLTIM wrote:

Dave's a mess wrote:
FYI, I just checked on all of those guys that all of you, like myself, had probably never heard of before reading about the trade. They all suck. Weird trade. Arizona gets the 2 best pieces in my eyes in Hinostroza and the pick. Oesterle is useful as well. Bizarre.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2589&p=52821&hilit=entwistle#p52821

You know I almost included a "besides Tim" in the part about not having heard of the players . It won't happen again!

Dave's a mess wrote:While we're talking about the Hawks, they've got some work to do. Right now they only have 9 forwards and 6 defensemen under contract. They don't have any pending RFAs either. They've got a little over $9 million in cap space to work with as well. They've been rumored to be in on Justin Faulk, which would certainly help their D, but I'm not sure what they have in the works up front. I'm not super familiar with their prospect pool, but I think the highest potential impact guys they have play D, and need a little more time. The UFA pickings are pretty slim, so there's no big impact acquisition available through that route, and I'm not sure they have much in the way of trade chips aside from draft picks.

Maybe they nab Skinner as well as Faulk? That'd help, but I don't think that'd get them back to contender status at all. Right now I wouldn't slot them any higher than 5th in the Central. You can see the need for a big move, but I don't know how they can pull it off.

Dave's a mess wrote:While we're talking about the Hawks, they've got some work to do. Right now they only have 9 forwards and 6 defensemen under contract. They don't have any pending RFAs either. They've got a little over $9 million in cap space to work with as well. They've been rumored to be in on Justin Faulk, which would certainly help their D, but I'm not sure what they have in the works up front. I'm not super familiar with their prospect pool, but I think the highest potential impact guys they have play D, and need a little more time. The UFA pickings are pretty slim, so there's no big impact acquisition available through that route, and I'm not sure they have much in the way of trade chips aside from draft picks.

Maybe they nab Skinner as well as Faulk? That'd help, but I don't think that'd get them back to contender status at all. Right now I wouldn't slot them any higher than 5th in the Central. You can see the need for a big move, but I don't know how they can pull it off.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote:

Dave's a mess wrote:While we're talking about the Hawks, they've got some work to do. Right now they only have 9 forwards and 6 defensemen under contract. They don't have any pending RFAs either. They've got a little over $9 million in cap space to work with as well. They've been rumored to be in on Justin Faulk, which would certainly help their D, but I'm not sure what they have in the works up front. I'm not super familiar with their prospect pool, but I think the highest potential impact guys they have play D, and need a little more time. The UFA pickings are pretty slim, so there's no big impact acquisition available through that route, and I'm not sure they have much in the way of trade chips aside from draft picks.

Maybe they nab Skinner as well as Faulk? That'd help, but I don't think that'd get them back to contender status at all. Right now I wouldn't slot them any higher than 5th in the Central. You can see the need for a big move, but I don't know how they can pull it off.

Skinner, Max P, Panarin? Some options out there for sure.

ratonmono wrote:The Hawks should be looking at Faulk not Skinner or Patches. Their D is embarrassing. Their forwards are decent enough.

Jesus actually looking at their forwards, they're not good there either. Yuck.

BillP wrote:

ratonmono wrote:The Hawks should be looking at Faulk not Skinner or Patches. Their D is embarrassing. Their forwards are decent enough.

Jesus actually looking at their forwards, they're not good there either. Yuck.

I agree about Faulk, but when looking at that Roster, I don't see how they can find their way back. I mean, if Hossa didn't fall apart and if Crawford stayed healthy and Panarin doesn't get dealt, they probably make the playoffs last year. But this team is done. You have to wonder if it comes to the point where Kane & Toews go to management and say we'd like to be traded. At some point, this may happen, but when? I think they should blow it up.

usmcaaron wrote:I would bet dollars to doughnuts that Artemi Panarin is their target. They know they messed up trading him, & w/ his rumored preference to be in a major city, they fit the bill.

I have no clue what they could give up that Columbus would want, but he just seems too logical.

Maybe the Jackets really like Entwistle, & he was a piece they needed to get the deal done?

Doug Glatt wrote:

usmcaaron wrote:I would bet dollars to doughnuts that Artemi Panarin is their target. They know they messed up trading him, & w/ his rumored preference to be in a major city, they fit the bill.

I have no clue what they could give up that Columbus would want, but he just seems too logical.

Maybe the Jackets really like Entwistle, & he was a piece they needed to get the deal done?

the rumor with Panarin is he wants to be by an ocean and not a lake.

Doug Glatt wrote:

usmcaaron wrote:I would bet dollars to doughnuts that Artemi Panarin is their target. They know they messed up trading him, & w/ his rumored preference to be in a major city, they fit the bill.

I have no clue what they could give up that Columbus would want, but he just seems too logical.

Maybe the Jackets really like Entwistle, & he was a piece they needed to get the deal done?

the rumor with Panarin is he wants to be by an ocean and not a lake.

barnburner wrote:

Doug Glatt wrote:

usmcaaron wrote:I would bet dollars to doughnuts that Artemi Panarin is their target. They know they messed up trading him, & w/ his rumored preference to be in a major city, they fit the bill.

I have no clue what they could give up that Columbus would want, but he just seems too logical.

Maybe the Jackets really like Entwistle, & he was a piece they needed to get the deal done?

the rumor with Panarin is he wants to be by an ocean and not a lake.

What the hell? His next contract is going to be off the charts. He should buy a damn home on whatever ocean he wants, for the off season. Hell buy one on the Atlantic, Pacific, and South China Sea. Then sign someplace where he has a chance to win.

barnburner wrote:

Doug Glatt wrote:

usmcaaron wrote:I would bet dollars to doughnuts that Artemi Panarin is their target. They know they messed up trading him, & w/ his rumored preference to be in a major city, they fit the bill.

I have no clue what they could give up that Columbus would want, but he just seems too logical.

Maybe the Jackets really like Entwistle, & he was a piece they needed to get the deal done?

the rumor with Panarin is he wants to be by an ocean and not a lake.

What the hell? His next contract is going to be off the charts. He should buy a damn home on whatever ocean he wants, for the off season. Hell buy one on the Atlantic, Pacific, Arctic, and South China Sea. Then sign someplace where he has a chance to win.

usmcaaron wrote:I would bet dollars to doughnuts that Artemi Panarin is their target. They know they messed up trading him, & w/ his rumored preference to be in a major city, they fit the bill.

I have no clue what they could give up that Columbus would want, but he just seems too logical.

Maybe the Jackets really like Entwistle, & he was a piece they needed to get the deal done?

BillP wrote:Anybody know why Hossa had to be dealt away by the Hawks? I thought all the Hawks had to do was put him on LTIR and the Hawks get that space back. No one ever explained that.

BillP wrote:Anybody know why Hossa had to be dealt away by the Hawks? I thought all the Hawks had to do was put him on LTIR and the Hawks get that space back. No one ever explained that.

BillP wrote:Anybody know why Hossa had to be dealt away by the Hawks? I thought all the Hawks had to do was put him on LTIR and the Hawks get that space back. No one ever explained that.

MissouriMook wrote:Teams still need to be cap compliant on the first day of the season, and can't use LTIR to get compliant until the season has started. Getting rid of his contract allows them to use that space on an active roster player rather than an LTIR placeholder, and it also reduces their number of contracts by 1 against the 50 SPC maximum.

barnburner wrote:

Doug Glatt wrote:

usmcaaron wrote:I would bet dollars to doughnuts that Artemi Panarin is their target. They know they messed up trading him, & w/ his rumored preference to be in a major city, they fit the bill.

I have no clue what they could give up that Columbus would want, but he just seems too logical.

Maybe the Jackets really like Entwistle, & he was a piece they needed to get the deal done?

the rumor with Panarin is he wants to be by an ocean and not a lake.

What the hell? His next contract is going to be off the charts. He should buy a damn home on whatever ocean he wants, for the off season. Hell buy one on the Atlantic, Pacific, Arctic, and South China Sea. Then sign someplace where he has a chance to win.