According to Strickland.

I'd take him at 6M per year...no doubt.

If we are one of the teams they are willing to do it for, does that increase interest in him? Kessel at $6mm sounds a lot better than Kessel at $8mm.

I'd sure take him......but for what in return? If it's Oshie+, then great. If it's quite a bit more than that, then forget it.

His cap hit is 8 mil....this upcoming season he gets 10mil .
http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams/TOR?year=2016

The real numbers:
http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams/TOR?year=2016

Matangama wrote:I'd sure take him......but for what in return? If it's Oshie+, then great. If it's quite a bit more than that, then forget it.

I'd be all for it if it was Oshie +. I have no doubt that Oshie would be going the other way, my concern is what would be the +? Ideally, I send Ott along for the ride to even out the salary. Not sure what Toronto is looking for at this point. Maybe we can return Gunnar too!

Turk Sanderson wrote:His cap hit is 8 mil....this upcoming season he gets 10mil .
http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams/TOR?year=2016

Right, but it would make his cap hit 6M.

UMSLBlues12 wrote:

Turk Sanderson wrote:His cap hit is 8 mil....this upcoming season he gets 10mil .
http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams/TOR?year=2016

Right, but it would make his cap hit 6M.

TRUE...but what I was saying, is that he still costs you 8mil this year, 7mil for the next 2yrs, 5mil for the next 2yrs

If the cost is Oshie + Rattie + Vannelli + 2016 2nd I'd do it in a heartbeat if they are still retaining $2M of his cap hit. Takes away 25% of the risk of the last few years of his deal if he slows down and becomes ineffective. That said, their willingness to retain cap hit is likely directly connected to the quality of the prospects coming back to them. Not sure if Rattie, Vannelli and a 2nd is enough to get them to take any salary back.

MissouriMook wrote:If the cost is Oshie + Rattie + Vannelli + 2016 2nd I'd do it in a heartbeat if they are still retaining $2M of his cap hit. Takes away 25% of the risk of the last few years of his deal if he slows down and becomes ineffective. That said, their willingness to retain cap hit is likely directly connected to the quality of the prospects coming back to them. Not sure if Rattie, Vannelli and a 2nd is enough to get them to take any salary back.

Send them Steen instead of Oshie, and the numbers work better.

Turk Sanderson wrote:

MissouriMook wrote:If the cost is Oshie + Rattie + Vannelli + 2016 2nd I'd do it in a heartbeat if they are still retaining $2M of his cap hit. Takes away 25% of the risk of the last few years of his deal if he slows down and becomes ineffective. That said, their willingness to retain cap hit is likely directly connected to the quality of the prospects coming back to them. Not sure if Rattie, Vannelli and a 2nd is enough to get them to take any salary back.

Send them Steen instead of Oshie, and the numbers work better.

Then we become incredibly weak on the left side.

Turk Sanderson wrote:

MissouriMook wrote:If the cost is Oshie + Rattie + Vannelli + 2016 2nd I'd do it in a heartbeat if they are still retaining $2M of his cap hit. Takes away 25% of the risk of the last few years of his deal if he slows down and becomes ineffective. That said, their willingness to retain cap hit is likely directly connected to the quality of the prospects coming back to them. Not sure if Rattie, Vannelli and a 2nd is enough to get them to take any salary back.

Send them Steen instead of Oshie, and the numbers work better.

Maybe the numbers work better, but I still think Steen has more value to the Blues than Oshie does. Oshie is #1 on my list of players to move this offseason.

Blues14 wrote:

Turk Sanderson wrote:

MissouriMook wrote:If the cost is Oshie + Rattie + Vannelli + 2016 2nd I'd do it in a heartbeat if they are still retaining $2M of his cap hit. Takes away 25% of the risk of the last few years of his deal if he slows down and becomes ineffective. That said, their willingness to retain cap hit is likely directly connected to the quality of the prospects coming back to them. Not sure if Rattie, Vannelli and a 2nd is enough to get them to take any salary back.

Send them Steen instead of Oshie, and the numbers work better.

Maybe the numbers work better, but I still think Steen has more value to the Blues than Oshie does. Oshie is #1 on my list of players to move this offseason.

Steen has a fragile melon...I'd move him ....besides, I want the "old core" gone.

I don't think it is going to be us, but I think someone is going to make out great when Kessel gets moved. I think away from Toronto on a team with better leadership he is going to be even better.

UMSLBlues12 wrote:I don't think it is going to be us, but I think someone is going to make out great when Kessel gets moved. I think away from Toronto on a team with better leadership he is going to be even better.

I don't think we can top the Penguins offer. We simply can't trade away another 1st.