The sky is falling, as it has every april since we finally started making the playoffs again. Now i'm just kidding...kind of..but while im seeing literally every aspect of the team get blamed (the problems goaltending, the problems the D, the problems the scoring, the problems the core, the problems hitch,) one question I have is, if the team fails in the playoffs, what in the world happens to goaltending?
It's early to be asking, but it seems we've exhausted all of our options. If Ells flounders in round one, how can he stick around? Especially if we potentially see coaching changes and forwards getting moved?
So what I'm really asking is what does everybody here think will happen if that scenario plays out, and if Ells IS gone, who would the Blues get to replace him (who would do any better)?
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2I think if Elliott plays like shit in the playoffs he will get moved for whatever DA can get in return. It doesn't really matter who is brought in to replace him, it will be Allens job to lose next year. My god have mercy on all of Blues fandom if Jake isn't up to the task
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4IF Elliott fails badly then I wouldn't be opposed to trying to pick up Cam Ward. He's been down the journey before and still has a bit left in the tank.
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5The good news about Elliott is that his contract is reasonable so if we need to move him we shouldn't have a terrible problem in doing so. I've gone back and forth over Ward for this team. On one hand he has the experience, but on the other hand he's just as inconsistent as Elliott over the last five years if not more so. I think he's likely to be available but don't want to see the Blues waste valuable assets on yet another overpaid veteran goalie that may or may not be a difference maker. This franchise needs to stick with and develop a goalie IMO. Allen's got great potential and his game is rounding into form at the end of the season here. Allen is my guy going forward. Elliott can back him up next season.UMSLBlues12 wrote:IF Elliott fails badly then I wouldn't be opposed to trying to pick up Cam Ward. He's been down the journey before and still has a bit left in the tank.
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6Good goalies like Elliott are easy to find, so I wouldn't worry about finding a replacement.
Finding a great goalie is another issue altogether.
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Finding a great goalie is another issue altogether.
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7Goaltending hasn't been an issue with the Blues in the playoffs since Curtis Joseph. (HEY, dude had ONE good playoff series in St. Louis...let's call a thing what it is.)
Playoff scoring has been our problem for the past 3 years.
Playoff scoring has been our problem for the past 3 years.
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8Jake Allen in net tomorrow night. You can't tell me the coaching staff isn't having second thoughts about Ells.
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9Its certainly starting to look that way.MIZDSP wrote:Jake Allen in net tomorrow night. You can't tell me the coaching staff isn't having second thoughts about Ells.
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10Seems like only a week and half ago, we were ready to march into any and all battles with Moose. (Myself included)
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11I said it in another thread, but this could be the very rare exception where it actually makes sense to go with a tandem in the playoffs. Only once during the entire season did Elliott start more than 4 consecutive games.
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12Allen since the All Star break: 6-1-2, .917, 2.08
Elliott since the All Star break: 11-9-1, .907, 2.57
One goalie has been playing quite a bit better than the other for a little bit now. Not trying to start a whole debate on this sort of thing but...the direction Elliott is trending in is concerning.
Elliott since the All Star break: 11-9-1, .907, 2.57
One goalie has been playing quite a bit better than the other for a little bit now. Not trying to start a whole debate on this sort of thing but...the direction Elliott is trending in is concerning.
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13Hitch, Armstrong et al are in a jam.UMSLBlues12 wrote:Allen since the All Star break: 6-1-2, .917, 2.08
Elliott since the All Star break: 11-9-1, .907, 2.57
One goalie has been playing quite a bit better than the other for a little bit now. Not trying to start a whole debate on this sort of thing but...the direction Elliott is trending in is concerning.
What to do? What...to...do?
Go with the 'hot hand'? Go with a kid who's stats have been great, but is an unproven PO participant? If he plays in the POs and the Blues get embarrassed, Hitch will be torched for not going with a veteran in Moose.
If Jake plays great and the Blues advance, then Hitch is a praised for his nerves of steel.
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14I think right now they're playing Jake in order to rest Ells and light a fire under his arse.StL Dan wrote:Hitch, Armstrong et al are in a jam.UMSLBlues12 wrote:Allen since the All Star break: 6-1-2, .917, 2.08
Elliott since the All Star break: 11-9-1, .907, 2.57
One goalie has been playing quite a bit better than the other for a little bit now. Not trying to start a whole debate on this sort of thing but...the direction Elliott is trending in is concerning.
What to do? What...to...do?
Go with the 'hot hand'? Go with a kid who's stats have been great, but is an unproven PO participant? If he plays in the POs and the Blues get embarrassed, Hitch will be torched for not going with a veteran in Moose.
If Jake plays great and the Blues advance, then Hitch is a praised for his nerves of steel.
But I'm just a guy on the outside.
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15Are you saying Ben Bishop?insideout wrote:Their plan should be to catch lightning in a bottle.
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16It worked well when the Blues had two "scrubs" named . . . Glenn Hall and Jacques Plante.insideout wrote:I said it in another thread, but this could be the very rare exception where it actually makes sense to go with a tandem in the playoffs. Only once during the entire season did Elliott start more than 4 consecutive games.
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17Happy to see Allen getting the next start even though it's a back to back situation and he was going to get a game either way. I'm still happy to see them leading off with Allen who has been the better goalie for a little while now.