Re: Ken Wilson just interviewed - 95-96 Blues should've won
26If Ken Wilson was so great...then why did his career end abruptly after he left St Louis?
He was going to be Governor of Hawaii. Not sure whatever happened to that.CaptSMRT wrote:If Ken Wilson was so great...then why did his career end abruptly after he left St Louis?
I think one of the knocks on Wilson was he was never around the team. He never talked to the players, never showed up at practice. I think Ken Wilson's passion lies with his passion for Ken Wilson. He was great at calling a game though.JesusNEVERexisted wrote:Point taken about Hawerchuk yet McTavish was good too. He was a part of multiple Cup winning Oiler teams.STLBlueshistory wrote:Ooops. I guess his memory failed him. Dale Hawerchuk was traded for Craig MacTavish and he obviously was not with the team in the Playoffs.JesusNEVERexisted wrote:Ken Wilson was just interviewed on CBS sports 920 am a few days ago and he said the 95-96 Blues team was one of those rare teams that had 7 hall of famers and should've won the Cup!
He mentioned Gretzky, Hull, Hawerchuk, Glenn Anderson, Grant Fuhr, Chopper, and Pronger.
Sorry. That team was far from great. Go back and look at the regular season record. Great teams don't have more losses than wins in the regular season.JesusNEVERexisted wrote:Still hard to believe they couldn't even make it to the conference finals. I guess Fuhr's injury and Casey playing goal is the reason people cite but the great teams overcome injuries.
People will have different opinions but were the calls great because of him or because of the actual moment in the game?JesusNEVERexisted wrote:Frank Cusamano told Wilson he is a legend in St.Louis because he made some of the greatest calls in St.Louis sports history!
It's true the Blues were 2 games under 500 in an era where you still had ties but Gretzky came more than halfway through the season and I bet they had a record better than .500 with him.
Have you seen some of the Ken Wilson tribute threads at the asylum? It wasn't just the players or the team. People loved his voice, passion, & of course his "OH BABY!!".
He changed his mind when someone told him work would be involved.Man in the box wrote:He was going to be Governor of Hawaii. Not sure whatever happened to that.CaptSMRT wrote:If Ken Wilson was so great...then why did his career end abruptly after he left St Louis?
Gets off plane...barnburner wrote:He changed his mind when someone told him work would be involved.Man in the box wrote:He was going to be Governor of Hawaii. Not sure whatever happened to that.CaptSMRT wrote:If Ken Wilson was so great...then why did his career end abruptly after he left St Louis?
What a bonehead move! I remember how great Courtnall was! If he made that shot the Gretzky/Hull Blues are in the Cup semi finals!CaptSMRT wrote:It was late in the game...Corson got taken down...and he had a broken jaw...Keenan could have said he was injured and allowed Courtnall (who was a far better on the penalty shot) to take it.JesusNEVERexisted wrote:When was there a penalty shot and why? I kinda wish I could see that game all over again.CaptSMRT wrote:Keenan could have used Courtnall to take the penalty shot for Corson in game 7...it was a bad call.
THAT is what it's all about! He was great at calling the games and that's what so many Blues fans remember fondly about him. Many Blues fans are too young to remember Dan Kelly so Wilson is their Dan Kelly. Frankly Wilson had more big calls for the Blues than Kelly did. At least the ones that keep getting rebroadcast.Man in the box wrote:
I think one of the knocks on Wilson was he was never around the team. He never talked to the players, never showed up at practice. I think Ken Wilson's passion lies with his passion for Ken Wilson. He was great at calling a game though.
It didn't. He called 50 Mariners games a few years ago. Remember WIlson said he didn't want another job. All the travel wore him down. That's why he said he liked doing only 50 Mariners games because there wasn't much travel. If he doesn't like to travel much that's his decision.CaptSMRT wrote:If Ken Wilson was so great...then why did his career end abruptly after he left St Louis?
Dan Kelly wasn't just a legend in St. Louis. He was revered all around Canada too. If you weren't around to hear Dan Kelly, you have nothing to base that comment on. It's just your speculation.JesusNEVERexisted wrote:Frankly Wilson had more big calls for the Blues than Kelly did. At least the ones that keep getting rebroadcast.
the fact this thread has gone on for two pages allows for a victor to be announced...and....barnburner wrote:Dan Kelly wasn't just a legend in St. Louis. He was revered all around Canada too. If you weren't around to hear Dan Kelly, you have nothing to base that comment on. It's just your speculation.JesusNEVERexisted wrote:Frankly Wilson had more big calls for the Blues than Kelly did. At least the ones that keep getting rebroadcast.
JesusNEVERexisted wrote:It didn't. He called 50 Mariners games a few years ago. Remember WIlson said he didn't want another job. All the travel wore him down. That's why he said he liked doing only 50 Mariners games because there wasn't much travel. If he doesn't like to travel much that's his decision.CaptSMRT wrote:If Ken Wilson was so great...then why did his career end abruptly after he left St Louis?
EDIT: in 2006 it would have been a 20th Anniversary.....JesusNEVERexisted wrote:I just heard it and Ken Wilson's call was definitely better. How do you explain that it's Wilson's call that is most often replayed and not Kelly's?STLBlueshistory wrote:JesusNEVERexisted wrote:
Do yourself a favor and listen to this version of the Monday Night Miracle.
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Even the BLUES show Wilson's call! Remember around 2006 the Blues had a 30th anniversary party for the Monday Night Miracle? I went to the website then and they had the video of KEN WILSON'S call!
Wilson had the better call and everyone knows it. He put more passion into it than Kelly.
Yeah, Dan Kelly was the man. Just a classic play by play guy. Wilson had more excitement to his calls with the "oh baby' and all that. It's like comparing Jack Buck to Chris Berman though.barnburner wrote:Dan Kelly wasn't just a legend in St. Louis. He was revered all around Canada too. If you weren't around to hear Dan Kelly, you have nothing to base that comment on. It's just your speculation.JesusNEVERexisted wrote:Frankly Wilson had more big calls for the Blues than Kelly did. At least the ones that keep getting rebroadcast.
oh baby....he. could. go. all. the. way!Man in the box wrote:Yeah, Dan Kelly was the man. Just a classic play by play guy. Wilson had more excitement to his calls with the "oh baby' and all that. It's like comparing Jack Buck to Chris Berman though.barnburner wrote:Dan Kelly wasn't just a legend in St. Louis. He was revered all around Canada too. If you weren't around to hear Dan Kelly, you have nothing to base that comment on. It's just your speculation.JesusNEVERexisted wrote:Frankly Wilson had more big calls for the Blues than Kelly did. At least the ones that keep getting rebroadcast.
Exactly! I never defended Wilson off air. I said maybe he made mistakes but his on ice calls are the most legendary in Blues history! Even in St.Louis and on Blues youtube videos you hear Wilson a lot more than Kelly!T.C. wrote:his "oh baby, bring on brett hull and the dallas stars" will forever be burned in my memory. brings a tear to the eye. yes, i am aware he was a tremendous douche off-air, but doesn't change his style. off the top, i can't remember one JK call.
Hmmmm.....Are his calls most legendary or are they the calls that are most readily available?JesusNEVERexisted wrote:
Exactly! I never defended Wilson off air. I said maybe he made mistakes but his on ice calls are the most legendary in Blues history! Even in St.Louis and on Blues youtube videos you hear Wilson a lot more than Kelly!
He only wanted to work part time because he didn't want to do all that traveling. Seems reasonable enough.CaptSMRT wrote:JesusNEVERexisted wrote:It didn't. He called 50 Mariners games a few years ago. Remember WIlson said he didn't want another job. All the travel wore him down. That's why he said he liked doing only 50 Mariners games because there wasn't much travel. If he doesn't like to travel much that's his decision.CaptSMRT wrote:If Ken Wilson was so great...then why did his career end abruptly after he left St Louis?
50 Mariners games....wow...he really set the world on fire.
Has nothing to do with him wanting to work part time and not travel. That is all they hired him for. If he didn't want to travel as you incorrectly say then why didn't he do all 81 home games?JesusNEVERexisted wrote:He only wanted to work part time because he didn't want to do all that traveling. Seems reasonable enough.CaptSMRT wrote:JesusNEVERexisted wrote:
It didn't. He called 50 Mariners games a few years ago. Remember WIlson said he didn't want another job. All the travel wore him down. That's why he said he liked doing only 50 Mariners games because there wasn't much travel. If he doesn't like to travel much that's his decision.
50 Mariners games....wow...he really set the world on fire.
i started paying attention to the blues when i moved back here in '96, so yeah - that exactly. i never really heard DK, only JK.STLBlueshistory wrote:JesusNEVERexisted wrote:I get it. People grew up listening to Ken Wilson. Heck; if he was my first main guy listening to I might feel the same way. That being said I would have enough common sense to realize the history and accomplishments between the two guys are not even close.
I never met Wilson but I've met 2 people who did and they both only had good things to say about him. One of them was Craig Conroy of the Blues! I met Conroy at GNC in the old west county mall. We talked hockey for about an hour and Wilson came up in the discussion and Conroy said he was just a great guy. BTW, Conroy was the nicest guy you could ever meet.Ladislav Bonita wrote:All I know is that Wilson is a lot better than the current Kelly. Also, I met Wilson twice for a couple of different reasons and he was nothing but professional and a gentleman both times.
Always have to lol at people always turning this conversation into defending Dan Kelly. One of the known topics that will get multiple pages of responses.