Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:46 am Rough start to the season for Dvorsky as he takes the step up to the SHL.

Pointless in 8 games getting around 12 minutes a game on the worst team in the league.

In better news, third rounder Pekarcik came over to play in the USHL and is putting up a PPG pace through his first 6.

As well as Stenberg having as many goals through his first 5 in the SHL(1) this year that he had in 23 last season.

NHLTIM wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:02 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:46 am Rough start to the season for Dvorsky as he takes the step up to the SHL.

Pointless in 8 games getting around 12 minutes a game on the worst team in the league.

In better news, third rounder Pekarcik came over to play in the USHL and is putting up a PPG pace through his first 6.

As well as Stenberg having as many goals through his first 5 in the SHL(1) this year that he had in 23 last season.

Meanwhile Zach Benson tore up the NHL preseason and earned himself a job on the Sabres top line.....for at least for 9 games.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:46 am

NHLTIM wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:02 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:46 am Rough start to the season for Dvorsky as he takes the step up to the SHL.

Pointless in 8 games getting around 12 minutes a game on the worst team in the league.

In better news, third rounder Pekarcik came over to play in the USHL and is putting up a PPG pace through his first 6.

As well as Stenberg having as many goals through his first 5 in the SHL(1) this year that he had in 23 last season.

Meanwhile Zach Benson tore up the NHL preseason and earned himself a job on the Sabres top line.....for at least for 9 games.

If he had Dvorsky's size he would have been a top 5 pick. We'll see how he holds up in the NHL. Considering his style of play and lack of size and lack of Swedish connections I doubt he was anywhere near the Blues draft board.

NHLTIM wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:00 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:46 am

NHLTIM wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:02 am

Meanwhile Zach Benson tore up the NHL preseason and earned himself a job on the Sabres top line.....for at least for 9 games.

If he had Dvorsky's size he would have been a top 5 pick. We'll see how he holds up in the NHL. Considering his style of play and lack of size and lack of Swedish connections I doubt he was anywhere near the Blues draft board.

Some GM's continue to overthink it. You have Brad Marchand lite starring you right in the face and you pass on him. Arizona passed on him twice....absolutely crazy. I agree with you on the Swedish connections comment though....no doubt about it. Steen didn't scout him, therefore we don't know who he is.
When you stray from the North American boy, you set your organization up for failure.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:11 am

NHLTIM wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:00 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:46 am

If he had Dvorsky's size he would have been a top 5 pick. We'll see how he holds up in the NHL. Considering his style of play and lack of size and lack of Swedish connections I doubt he was anywhere near the Blues draft board.

Some GM's continue to overthink it. You have Brad Marchand lite starring you right in the face and you pass on him. Arizona passed on him twice....absolutely crazy. I agree with you on the Swedish connections comment though....no doubt about it. Steen didn't scout him, therefore we don't know who he is.
When you stray from the North American boy, you set your organization up for failure.

We'll see how it plays out, I think Dvorsky was the right pick and am certainly not calling him a bust.

As for the Coyotes, I think they have concern for a lot of these young guys they are bringing in right now coming up for contract renewal's all at the same time. Thinking their draft strategy was to get guys that won't be around for awhile to spread it out more. Which makes passing on Michkov a bit weird but that's neither here nor there.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:11 am

NHLTIM wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:00 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:46 am

If he had Dvorsky's size he would have been a top 5 pick. We'll see how he holds up in the NHL. Considering his style of play and lack of size and lack of Swedish connections I doubt he was anywhere near the Blues draft board.

Some GM's continue to overthink it. You have Brad Marchand lite starring you right in the face and you pass on him. Arizona passed on him twice....absolutely crazy. I agree with you on the Swedish connections comment though....no doubt about it. Steen didn't scout him, therefore we don't know who he is.
When you stray from the North American boy, you set your organization up for failure.

We'll see how it plays out, I think Dvorsky was the right pick and am certainly not calling him a bust.

As for the Coyotes, I think they have concern for a lot of these young guys they are bringing in right now coming up for contract renewal's all at the same time. Thinking their draft strategy was to get guys that won't be around for awhile to spread it out more. Which makes passing on Michkov a bit weird but that's neither here nor there.

NHLTIM wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:43 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:11 am

NHLTIM wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:00 am

Some GM's continue to overthink it. You have Brad Marchand lite starring you right in the face and you pass on him. Arizona passed on him twice....absolutely crazy. I agree with you on the Swedish connections comment though....no doubt about it. Steen didn't scout him, therefore we don't know who he is.
When you stray from the North American boy, you set your organization up for failure.

We'll see how it plays out, I think Dvorsky was the right pick and am certainly not calling him a bust.

As for the Coyotes, I think they have concern for a lot of these young guys they are bringing in right now coming up for contract renewal's all at the same time. Thinking their draft strategy was to get guys that won't be around for awhile to spread it out more. Which makes passing on Michkov a bit weird but that's neither here nor there.

My only concern with Dvorsky is Yzerman passing on him at 9

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:11 am

NHLTIM wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:00 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:46 am

If he had Dvorsky's size he would have been a top 5 pick. We'll see how he holds up in the NHL. Considering his style of play and lack of size and lack of Swedish connections I doubt he was anywhere near the Blues draft board.

Some GM's continue to overthink it. You have Brad Marchand lite starring you right in the face and you pass on him. Arizona passed on him twice....absolutely crazy. I agree with you on the Swedish connections comment though....no doubt about it. Steen didn't scout him, therefore we don't know who he is.
When you stray from the North American boy, you set your organization up for failure.

We'll see how it plays out, I think Dvorsky was the right pick and am certainly not calling him a bust.

As for the Coyotes, I think they have concern for a lot of these young guys they are bringing in right now coming up for contract renewal's all at the same time. Thinking their draft strategy was to get guys that won't be around for awhile to spread it out more. Which makes passing on Michkov a bit weird but that's neither here nor there.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:51 am It makes sense. Cut the zone into 4 slices. If the puck comes in yours attack, if it leaves yours pass the guy off and get in position. We'll see if the Blues have the players capable of executing this though.

Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:53 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:51 am It makes sense. Cut the zone into 4 slices. If the puck comes in yours attack, if it leaves yours pass the guy off and get in position. We'll see if the Blues have the players capable of executing this though.

The part that was most reassuring is that Leddy and Krug ran that exact system with their previous teams. It's not super complicated, but whatever they were doing last year wasn't working.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:55 am

Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:53 am

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:51 am It makes sense. Cut the zone into 4 slices. If the puck comes in yours attack, if it leaves yours pass the guy off and get in position. We'll see if the Blues have the players capable of executing this though.

The part that was most reassuring is that Leddy and Krug ran that exact system with their previous teams. It's not super complicated, but whatever they were doing last year wasn't working.

Yes, that's what gives me some hope even though it's the exact same players as last year is that it's a completely different system. If it was the same players AND the same system, I'd be hopeless. As puck drop gets closer I am getting more and more optimistic. I AM READY TO BE HURT AGAIN

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:03 pmWho the heck is that??? Not even Google could tell me who this was

JMC-STL wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:50 pm

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:03 pmWho the heck is that??? Not even Google could tell me who this was

André Heim (with an 'm') was signed by the Blues in May 2023 ... https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdi ... pid=200473

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:15 pm Dvorsky was a healthy scratch for his Swedish team. His transition to their senior league is not off to a good start. He's been buried to 4th line role, isn't performing on it, and now not playing.

He's on a crap team whose interest isn't in developing players. He should consider coming to North America.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:57 am We had a 182 day offseason and waited patiently through that for Blues hockey to roll around only to have to sit here and wait for 5 days to see another Blues game. There is a special ring in hell for Gary Bettman and his schedule makers.

Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:57 am We had a 182 day offseason and waited patiently through that for Blues hockey to roll around only to have to sit here and wait for 5 days to see another Blues game. There is a special ring in hell for Gary Bettman and his schedule makers.

Ozzies09tc wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:45 pm Per JR's twitter account (I don't have Twitter I have a "things that may interest you" feed in my google chrome) buch out 1-2 weeks so 5 days off not exactly a bad thing?