Dave's a mess wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:06 amLove Giroux. He makes 0 sense to acquire though given a relative scarcity of trade chips that Army would want to part with and the glaring need on the blue line.
Market is flooded with dmen but not many as young and signed to a bargain contract as Chychrun. The Kings want him and they have a wealth of talent in the cupboard to make it an easy transaction.Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:51 am We're less than a month from the deadline. It seems pretty obvious that the Blues are going to acquire a LD at some point, and probably nothing else of note. The questions are when, and how big of a name. Chiarot has probably been the guy the insiders seem to say is most likely, while Chychrun seems to be the best available in terms of ability/contract. While the Chychrun price tag is the highest, I kind of think that's the deal Armstrong pulls off. It strikes me as a Bouwmeester style deal, which worked out very well. Chiarot on a rental deal reminds me of the Zbynek Michalek deal that was cheaper, but ultimately irrelevant.
The key thing obviously is the price. I don't think the Coyotes are going to get quite what they're asking for Chychrun as the market seems to be flooded for D this year. In addition to the guys we've mentioned, there's also Klingberg, Giordano, Braun, Lindholm, Leddy among others. All those guys are rentals but can make an impact this year.
I wonder what Jamie Oleksiak would cost?NHLTIM wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:31 pmMarket is flooded with dmen but not many as young and signed to a bargain contract as Chychrun. The Kings want him and they have a wealth of talent in the cupboard to make it an easy transaction.Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:51 am We're less than a month from the deadline. It seems pretty obvious that the Blues are going to acquire a LD at some point, and probably nothing else of note. The questions are when, and how big of a name. Chiarot has probably been the guy the insiders seem to say is most likely, while Chychrun seems to be the best available in terms of ability/contract. While the Chychrun price tag is the highest, I kind of think that's the deal Armstrong pulls off. It strikes me as a Bouwmeester style deal, which worked out very well. Chiarot on a rental deal reminds me of the Zbynek Michalek deal that was cheaper, but ultimately irrelevant.
The key thing obviously is the price. I don't think the Coyotes are going to get quite what they're asking for Chychrun as the market seems to be flooded for D this year. In addition to the guys we've mentioned, there's also Klingberg, Giordano, Braun, Lindholm, Leddy among others. All those guys are rentals but can make an impact this year.
For sure. Some teams definitely have a more robust war chest. Having said that, the Coyotes have said they're looking for "an Eichel package" for Chychrun. That ended up being good position player (Tuch), good prospect (Krebs) a 1 and a 2. If that's the ask and the market is at all diminished I wonder if Army can swing the deal. Maybe Bill Armstrong has a soft spot for one of the guys he drafted here. The Coyotes don't need to deal him until they get the price they want, so it probably won't feel cheap for whoever ends up acquiring Chychrun.. I just feel like when there's a piece that seems like a perfect fit (Bouwmeester, Schenn) Armstrong gets it done. There are probably cases I'm not thinking of where the "perfect fit" got away, along with one (Ryan Miller) where the fit was not as perfect as it appeared, haha.NHLTIM wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:31 pmMarket is flooded with dmen but not many as young and signed to a bargain contract as Chychrun. The Kings want him and they have a wealth of talent in the cupboard to make it an easy transaction.Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:51 am We're less than a month from the deadline. It seems pretty obvious that the Blues are going to acquire a LD at some point, and probably nothing else of note. The questions are when, and how big of a name. Chiarot has probably been the guy the insiders seem to say is most likely, while Chychrun seems to be the best available in terms of ability/contract. While the Chychrun price tag is the highest, I kind of think that's the deal Armstrong pulls off. It strikes me as a Bouwmeester style deal, which worked out very well. Chiarot on a rental deal reminds me of the Zbynek Michalek deal that was cheaper, but ultimately irrelevant.
The key thing obviously is the price. I don't think the Coyotes are going to get quite what they're asking for Chychrun as the market seems to be flooded for D this year. In addition to the guys we've mentioned, there's also Klingberg, Giordano, Braun, Lindholm, Leddy among others. All those guys are rentals but can make an impact this year.
not a better option than scandella IMO.Turk Sanderson wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:38 pmI wonder what Jamie Oleksiak would cost?NHLTIM wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:31 pmMarket is flooded with dmen but not many as young and signed to a bargain contract as Chychrun. The Kings want him and they have a wealth of talent in the cupboard to make it an easy transaction.Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:51 am We're less than a month from the deadline. It seems pretty obvious that the Blues are going to acquire a LD at some point, and probably nothing else of note. The questions are when, and how big of a name. Chiarot has probably been the guy the insiders seem to say is most likely, while Chychrun seems to be the best available in terms of ability/contract. While the Chychrun price tag is the highest, I kind of think that's the deal Armstrong pulls off. It strikes me as a Bouwmeester style deal, which worked out very well. Chiarot on a rental deal reminds me of the Zbynek Michalek deal that was cheaper, but ultimately irrelevant.
The key thing obviously is the price. I don't think the Coyotes are going to get quite what they're asking for Chychrun as the market seems to be flooded for D this year. In addition to the guys we've mentioned, there's also Klingberg, Giordano, Braun, Lindholm, Leddy among others. All those guys are rentals but can make an impact this year.
He doesn't excite me either. Don't think his contract is too friendly, if I recall correctly.Ozzies09tc wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:55 pmnot a better option than scandella IMO.Turk Sanderson wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:38 pmI wonder what Jamie Oleksiak would cost?NHLTIM wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:31 pm
Market is flooded with dmen but not many as young and signed to a bargain contract as Chychrun. The Kings want him and they have a wealth of talent in the cupboard to make it an easy transaction.
Olek has never played more than 69 games in a season and his next highest before that is 56 games which was last year... whats the point of a better dman than scandella if he is never playing
That's good news for Marco at least.Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:00 am Some good news on this morning, Marco Scandella is back on the practice ice.
Chychrun and Olek both make 4.6 mil/yr... Olek has 4 yrs left after this year as opposed to Chychrun's three. Olek's played more games than Chychrun this year.BluesSK wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:10 amHe doesn't excite me either. Don't think his contract is too friendly, if I recall correctly.Ozzies09tc wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:55 pmnot a better option than scandella IMO.
Olek has never played more than 69 games in a season and his next highest before that is 56 games which was last year... whats the point of a better dman than scandella if he is never playing
And future opponents.Dave's a mess wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:08 pmThat's good news for Marco at least.Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:00 am Some good news on this morning, Marco Scandella is back on the practice ice.
I wonder what Seattle is asking for Giordano. I assume he has some level of trade protection, but boy would I much rather have him as a rental than Chiarot.Turk Sanderson wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:30 pmChychrun and Olek both make 4.6 mil/yr... Olek has 4 yrs left after this year as opposed to Chychrun's three. Olek's played more games than Chychrun this year.BluesSK wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:10 amHe doesn't excite me either. Don't think his contract is too friendly, if I recall correctly.Ozzies09tc wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:55 pm
not a better option than scandella IMO.
Olek has never played more than 69 games in a season and his next highest before that is 56 games which was last year... whats the point of a better dman than scandella if he is never playing
Olek plays a more punishing game than Chychrun, and the cost would be more realistic as far as the Blues are concerned. Chychrun's gonna net the Coyotes a shit-load of resources...probably more than DA will pay.
They'll probably get overpaid for him, and he'll walk away after the season. He wouldn't be what I'd go after if I was DA.Dave's a mess wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:53 pmI wonder what Seattle is asking for Giordano. I assume he has some level of trade protection, but boy would I much rather have him as a rental than Chiarot.Turk Sanderson wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:30 pmChychrun and Olek both make 4.6 mil/yr... Olek has 4 yrs left after this year as opposed to Chychrun's three. Olek's played more games than Chychrun this year.BluesSK wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:10 am
He doesn't excite me either. Don't think his contract is too friendly, if I recall correctly.
Olek plays a more punishing game than Chychrun, and the cost would be more realistic as far as the Blues are concerned. Chychrun's gonna net the Coyotes a shit-load of resources...probably more than DA will pay.
Old Man Cranley? Hope he improves over what we saw in Traverse City. Not great.Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:45 pm
I don't know if he's any good or not, but he's 6'5 at least! Always good to have another goalie in the pipeline.
He may be 6'5", but he looks like he's 120 lbs. soaking wet. His arms are as thin as a hockey stick. He's gonna need some mighty big padding to fill out the jersey.Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:45 pm
I don't know if he's any good or not, but he's 6'5 at least! Always good to have another goalie in the pipeline.
Perspective: 20 years old, 6th round pick (there are only 7 rounds), one game of pro experience, has at least Husso & Binnington & Hofer & Lindgren & Ellis above him on the Blues goalie depth chart. To call this a "depth signing" would be kind. It's more like the coaching staff in Springfield wanted another body for the practice squad to shoot at, or his parents called in a favor to get the kid outta their house.JMC-STL wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 11:48 amHe may be 6'5", but he looks like he's 120 lbs. soaking wet. His arms are as thin as a hockey stick. He's gonna need some mighty big padding to fill out the jersey.Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:45 pm
I don't know if he's any good or not, but he's 6'5 at least! Always good to have another goalie in the pipeline.
