So question, since I have time to play;BluesSK wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:11 pmOh, they will cede those ones back but it will just make it all the easier the next time a "crisis" happens and as we all know once laws are implemented they never seem to be repealed. i.e.; The Patriot Act, FISA courtsbradleygt89 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:44 am So you think that Canada will not 'cede these liberties' back? (Not commenting on the Philippines as they are a different story, as Duterte is an authoritative jackoff)
But for Canada:
"No gatherings of more than "x" number of people depending where you live.
No church services.
No schooling.
International border closures.
Provincial border closures.
Having your business determined to be essential or not and if it isn't. You're closed."
what would be the benefit to the Canadian government to not cede those liberties back? Just not following the logic of your fear.
You also didn't take into consideration the second part of my initial comments;
This is what's happening in China. A totalitarian government that has given a billion people a middle class lifestyle. As long as they don't rock the boat and are fat and happy big brother will look after them while they impose rights violation upon rights violation on prisoners, ethnic minorities, human rights advocates and on and on.There's also a lot of people who have been psychologically manipulated into willingly giving up those liberties and being fine with it as long as they feel the government keeps them safe.
This could easily happen anywhere and we must do everything we can to guarantee the individual liberties and human rights of people.
Americans argue about the Constitution endlessly but they don't realize how lucky they are to have it.
And that's how I feel.
1. You don't think this is an actual crisis? Just asking since you are calling a 'crisis'.
2. Yes, authoratarian governments suck. And yes, as flawed as it may be in modern terms, the living breathing document we have in the USA called the Constitution is a beautiful thing.
3. Here's a thought for all libertarian minded folk (which I used to claim, until it shifted to the far-right): The need for government, laws, police, military...the need for them suck. Unfortunately, people suck, therefore we need less sucky government to protect the masses from the ultra-sucky.
Think about it. IF everyone practiced good hygiene, stayed home when sick (and could afford too because their employers gave them realistic sick time), and followed basic 'social distancing' guidelines during a pandemic...there wouldn't be a fucking pandemic. All the assholes who continue to go to church, hang out at the beaches, bars, and in large groups...blame them for the governments having to take action. We saw it here in FL and up in Mo: People flooding the beaches and state parks and not maintaining social distancing, so like a parent to a child, there goes that privilege.
Our species is highly ironic; we bitch about far reaching laws, but it is our own stupidity why we have these laws to being with. You shouldn't need to be told to drive at a safe speed for the road conditions. There shouldn't have to be a sign over a 100' gorge saying not to lean over because you may die. There shouldn't have to be regulations to keep industries from polluting the waters. But we have them because people are not just stupid, they are selfish and short-sighted.
TLDR: WE created this. no one else. we only have ourselves to blame for the actions that the government takes to protect the masses from ourselves because we are too dumb to do it on our own.