Man, that is amazing, I think you might be right. Off the top of my head, Gretzky, Hull, Pronger, MacInnis, Shanahan, Hawerchuck, Anderson...probably a couple others. Ah, the mid-90s Blues!insideout wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:57 pm I bet more NHL Hall-of-Famers wore that sweater than any other Blues sweater.
My counting may be wrong, but it does appear that Insideout is correct:JMC-STL wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:00 amI'd love to see your data to back up that claim. With due consideration of the changes in standards for HHoF induction since the early expansion years.insideout wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:57 pmI bet more NHL Hall-of-Famers wore that sweater than any other Blues sweater.
They technically debuted in 1995, but that was the 94-95 season thanks to Bettman Lockout I. That means Shanahan was another HHOFer to wear the jersey, as well as recently elected Guy Carbonneau, and Peter Stastny.bradleygt89 wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:25 amMy counting may be wrong, but it does appear that Insideout is correct:JMC-STL wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:00 amI'd love to see your data to back up that claim. With due consideration of the changes in standards for HHoF induction since the early expansion years.insideout wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:57 pmI bet more NHL Hall-of-Famers wore that sweater than any other Blues sweater.
Glenn Anderson
Grand Fuhr
Wayne Gretzky
Dale Hawerchuk
Brett Hull
Chris Pronger
All MacInnis
7 HHOF Players who wore that jersey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_S ... ll_of_Fame
Jacques PLante
Dickie Moore
Doug Harvey
Glenn Hall
4 players from the early years jersey
There are a few who played in the early nineties, but there was also different designs from 89-92 then 92-94 then to the 'clowns' from 95-98 http://www.nhluniforms.com/Blues/Blues10.html
Thanks, boys. So all I need is photos of 6 HHoF "Builders" inductees wearing the older Blues jerseys during coaching sessions or publicity photo ops, and I can prove insideout wrong? Arbour, Bowman, Francis, ........ DAMN!Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:50 amThey technically debuted in 1995, but that was the 94-95 season thanks to Bettman Lockout I. That means Shanahan was another HHOFer to wear the jersey, as well as recently elected Guy Carbonneau, and Peter Stastny.bradleygt89 wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:25 amMy counting may be wrong, but it does appear that Insideout is correct:JMC-STL wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:00 amI'd love to see your data to back up that claim. With due consideration of the changes in standards for HHoF induction since the early expansion years.
Glenn Anderson
Grand Fuhr
Wayne Gretzky
Dale Hawerchuk
Brett Hull
Chris Pronger
All MacInnis
7 HHOF Players who wore that jersey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_S ... ll_of_Fame
Jacques PLante
Dickie Moore
Doug Harvey
Glenn Hall
4 players from the early years jersey
There are a few who played in the early nineties, but there was also different designs from 89-92 then 92-94 then to the 'clowns' from 95-98 http://www.nhluniforms.com/Blues/Blues10.html
Remarkable how many Cup winners came through St. Louis before/after winning their Cups, and the team that finally does win one for the Blues might not have a single Hall of Famer.JMC-STL wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:35 pmThanks, boys. So all I need is photos of 6 HHoF "Builders" inductees wearing the older Blues jerseys during coaching sessions or publicity photo ops, and I can prove insideout wrong? Arbour, Bowman, Francis, ........ DAMN!Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:50 amThey technically debuted in 1995, but that was the 94-95 season thanks to Bettman Lockout I. That means Shanahan was another HHOFer to wear the jersey, as well as recently elected Guy Carbonneau, and Peter Stastny.bradleygt89 wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:25 am
My counting may be wrong, but it does appear that Insideout is correct:
Glenn Anderson
Grand Fuhr
Wayne Gretzky
Dale Hawerchuk
Brett Hull
Chris Pronger
All MacInnis
7 HHOF Players who wore that jersey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_S ... ll_of_Fame
Jacques PLante
Dickie Moore
Doug Harvey
Glenn Hall
4 players from the early years jersey
There are a few who played in the early nineties, but there was also different designs from 89-92 then 92-94 then to the 'clowns' from 95-98 http://www.nhluniforms.com/Blues/Blues10.html
IF Petro can continue to have say 5 more 50+ point seasons and win one more Cup, does he get in? That's put him over 650 points for his career, and in the top 3-5 in points as a Blues player. Does he even need another Cup if he finishes with over 600 points and continues to play a strong D game on the top pairing?Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:53 pmRemarkable how many Cup winners came through St. Louis before/after winning their Cups, and the team that finally does win one for the Blues might not have a single Hall of Famer.JMC-STL wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:35 pmThanks, boys. So all I need is photos of 6 HHoF "Builders" inductees wearing the older Blues jerseys during coaching sessions or publicity photo ops, and I can prove insideout wrong? Arbour, Bowman, Francis, ........ DAMN!Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:50 am
They technically debuted in 1995, but that was the 94-95 season thanks to Bettman Lockout I. That means Shanahan was another HHOFer to wear the jersey, as well as recently elected Guy Carbonneau, and Peter Stastny.
HHOF can be weird, but unless he Captains another Cup winner and wins a Norris and or Conn Smythe I just don't see it. Still will have a hell of a career though.bradleygt89 wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:22 pmIF Petro can continue to have say 5 more 50+ point seasons and win one more Cup, does he get in? That's put him over 650 points for his career, and in the top 3-5 in points as a Blues player. Does he even need another Cup if he finishes with over 600 points and continues to play a strong D game on the top pairing?Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:53 pmRemarkable how many Cup winners came through St. Louis before/after winning their Cups, and the team that finally does win one for the Blues might not have a single Hall of Famer.JMC-STL wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:35 pm
Thanks, boys. So all I need is photos of 6 HHoF "Builders" inductees wearing the older Blues jerseys during coaching sessions or publicity photo ops, and I can prove insideout wrong? Arbour, Bowman, Francis, ........ DAMN!
At this point I think he would have a better chance getting in if he won a Norris than if he won another Cup. The HHOF seems weird that way.bradleygt89 wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:22 pmIF Petro can continue to have say 5 more 50+ point seasons and win one more Cup, does he get in? That's put him over 650 points for his career, and in the top 3-5 in points as a Blues player. Does he even need another Cup if he finishes with over 600 points and continues to play a strong D game on the top pairing?Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:53 pmRemarkable how many Cup winners came through St. Louis before/after winning their Cups, and the team that finally does win one for the Blues might not have a single Hall of Famer.JMC-STL wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:35 pm
Thanks, boys. So all I need is photos of 6 HHoF "Builders" inductees wearing the older Blues jerseys during coaching sessions or publicity photo ops, and I can prove insideout wrong? Arbour, Bowman, Francis, ........ DAMN!
I bet you are a lot of fun at parties Scruffy. Very cool.Scruffy wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:57 amYou’ve changed from ‘Gretzky dangled and was stripped’ to ‘couldn’t come up with a 50/50 puck.’39hurricane wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:59 pmThe best player ever to play the game. Ever. Couldn't come up with a 50/50 puck. Stevie Y made him look like a washed up 3rd liner. And we lost the series on that play.Scruffy wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:40 am
I know I’ve probably already ranted about this in the past, but everyone misremembers this play. Gretzky didn’t try to dangle. He didn’t get stripped.
Gretzky was in good defensive position. The Detroit defender fanned on the pass and the puck drifted behind Gretzky, who almost corralled it with one hand, but he couldn’t quite come up with an unexpected loose puck in an awkward spot. It’s happened to everyone who’s ever played. Unfortunately for Gretzky, the puck hit the back of his skate and bounced directly onto the stick of Yzerman, who took a handful of strides and wired a shot top shelf.
It was a bitter and heartbreaking and ironic series of events, but people almost universally blame Gretzky for what was a heads-up play, a bad bounce, and a miraculous shot.
Also, those jerseys are definitely ugly, but, like others have noted, they’re going for the nostalgia angle—and the general rule is that you go back roughly 25 years. Hence, the goofy 90s ones. It’s not a big deal, IMO. (I personally prefer the early 90s Jeff Brown-style Jersey).
Rant over.
tl;dr—Gretzky didn’t turn that puck over. The new jerseys are ugly, but aren’t that big of a deal.
Those jerseys are ugly.
Still wrong, but at least you’re getting closer.
Here's something else remarkable that I've considered before.... If no one on the Blues SC team gets in the HOF, could they be the only Stanley Cup winner ever to not have at least one of them? I'm guessing one of the Kings will get in.... Maybe Doughty or Kopitar? ...... But they are the only team I can think of that could potentially also qualify. Other than the Kings (possibly), I can't think of a single SC winner without one since '67 expansion (Chi/Bos/Pit/Was will all have at least one eventually), and I imagine most - if not - all winners before that had at least 1.Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:53 pmRemarkable how many Cup winners came through St. Louis before/after winning their Cups, and the team that finally does win one for the Blues might not have a single Hall of Famer.JMC-STL wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:35 pmThanks, boys. So all I need is photos of 6 HHoF "Builders" inductees wearing the older Blues jerseys during coaching sessions or publicity photo ops, and I can prove insideout wrong? Arbour, Bowman, Francis, ........ DAMN!Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:50 am
They technically debuted in 1995, but that was the 94-95 season thanks to Bettman Lockout I. That means Shanahan was another HHOFer to wear the jersey, as well as recently elected Guy Carbonneau, and Peter Stastny.
Carolina?insideout wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:35 pmHere's something else remarkable that I've considered before.... If no one on the Blues SC team gets in the HOF, could they be the only Stanley Cup winner ever to not have at least one of them? I'm guessing one of the Kings will get in.... Maybe Doughty or Kopitar? ...... But they are the only team I can think of that could potentially also qualify. Other than the Kings (possibly), I can't think of a single SC winner without one since '67 expansion (Chi/Bos/Pit/Was will all have at least one eventually), and I imagine most - if not - all winners before that had at least 1.
I think you’re right. I was thinking they had Francis , but he was gone in 06.JMC-STL wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:50 pmCarolina?insideout wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:35 pmHere's something else remarkable that I've considered before.... If no one on the Blues SC team gets in the HOF, could they be the only Stanley Cup winner ever to not have at least one of them? I'm guessing one of the Kings will get in.... Maybe Doughty or Kopitar? ...... But they are the only team I can think of that could potentially also qualify. Other than the Kings (possibly), I can't think of a single SC winner without one since '67 expansion (Chi/Bos/Pit/Was will all have at least one eventually), and I imagine most - if not - all winners before that had at least 1.
Nope. They had Mark Recchi.insideout wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:32 pmI think you’re right. I was thinking they had Francis , but he was gone in 06.JMC-STL wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:50 pmCarolina?insideout wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:35 pmHere's something else remarkable that I've considered before.... If no one on the Blues SC team gets in the HOF, could they be the only Stanley Cup winner ever to not have at least one of them? I'm guessing one of the Kings will get in.... Maybe Doughty or Kopitar? ...... But they are the only team I can think of that could potentially also qualify. Other than the Kings (possibly), I can't think of a single SC winner without one since '67 expansion (Chi/Bos/Pit/Was will all have at least one eventually), and I imagine most - if not - all winners before that had at least 1.
Shot in the dark. I didn't even consider Francis. It just seemed to me that a team like the Canes with their one-season success was a good candidate. I briefly added Florida, but - go figger - they never won a Cup.insideout wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:32 pmI think you’re right. I was thinking they had Francis , but he was gone in 06.JMC-STL wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:50 pmCarolina?insideout wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:35 pmHere's something else remarkable that I've considered before.... If no one on the Blues SC team gets in the HOF, could they be the only Stanley Cup winner ever to not have at least one of them? I'm guessing one of the Kings will get in.... Maybe Doughty or Kopitar? ...... But they are the only team I can think of that could potentially also qualify. Other than the Kings (possibly), I can't think of a single SC winner without one since '67 expansion (Chi/Bos/Pit/Was will all have at least one eventually), and I imagine most - if not - all winners before that had at least 1.
Ha. My original post was about how people are overly negative about these things (a bad bounce, an ugly jersey). Not sure why this got you all riled up...39hurricane wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:17 pmI bet you are a lot of fun at parties Scruffy. Very cool.Scruffy wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:57 amYou’ve changed from ‘Gretzky dangled and was stripped’ to ‘couldn’t come up with a 50/50 puck.’39hurricane wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:59 pm
The best player ever to play the game. Ever. Couldn't come up with a 50/50 puck. Stevie Y made him look like a washed up 3rd liner. And we lost the series on that play.
Those jerseys are ugly.
Still wrong, but at least you’re getting closer.
You need a hobby.Scruffy wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:56 amHa. My original post was about how people are overly negative about these things (a bad bounce, an ugly jersey). Not sure why this got you all riled up...39hurricane wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:17 pmI bet you are a lot of fun at parties Scruffy. Very cool.Scruffy wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:57 am
You’ve changed from ‘Gretzky dangled and was stripped’ to ‘couldn’t come up with a 50/50 puck.’
Still wrong, but at least you’re getting closer.
39hurricane wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:31 pmYou need a hobby.Scruffy wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:56 amHa. My original post was about how people are overly negative about these things (a bad bounce, an ugly jersey). Not sure why this got you all riled up...39hurricane wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:17 pm
I bet you are a lot of fun at parties Scruffy. Very cool.
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Scruffy wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:39 pmWas this just a long game to be able to tell people you have 69 post? I respect that39hurricane wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:31 pmYou need a hobby.Scruffy wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:56 am
Ha. My original post was about how people are overly negative about these things (a bad bounce, an ugly jersey). Not sure why this got you all riled up...
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