Carbonneau, Zubov, Wickenheiser, and Nedormansky.
Zubov definitely a no brainer. Interesting that Carbonneau made it after all these years. His defensive game was definitely HOF worthy but offensively not even in the ballpark. Which begs the question why great offensive talents like Mogilny and Turgeon get punished for being "one-dimensional" even though their one dimension was absolutely hall of fame worthy? Just frustrating to me how they have different standards when it comes to offense ot seems to be critically under-rated still in the hockey world.
Edit: I'm not trying to discredit Carbonneau as much as I am trying to make a case for guys like Mogilny and Turgeon.
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2Alternate headline: Daughter of Blues Legend headlines HOF Class along with 2 other Blues Greats.
...but whatever, the Blues won the Cup!!!!!
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3In some countries I guess someones father could also be their cousin.Dave's a mess wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:10 pm Alternate headline: Daughter of Blues Legend headlines HOF Class along with 2 other Blues Greats.
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4That is a good point. Not usually in Canada though.STLBlueshistory wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:31 amIn some countries I guess someones father could also be their cousin.Dave's a mess wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:10 pm Alternate headline: Daughter of Blues Legend headlines HOF Class along with 2 other Blues Greats.
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5Pretty much standard practice in Arkansas, and KentuckySTLBlueshistory wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:31 amIn some countries I guess someones father could also be their cousin.Dave's a mess wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:10 pm Alternate headline: Daughter of Blues Legend headlines HOF Class along with 2 other Blues Greats.
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6Not all of Arkansas, just the rural areas, where you have less than 5000 people, that's still a great big portion of Arkansas.barnburner wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:33 amPretty much standard practice in Arkansas, and KentuckySTLBlueshistory wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:31 amIn some countries I guess someones father could also be their cousin.Dave's a mess wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:10 pm Alternate headline: Daughter of Blues Legend headlines HOF Class along with 2 other Blues Greats.
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I agree. Carbonneau? I can think of better players than him. Probably same for Zubov too. Turgeon definitely belongs in HOF. Massive thread on HF Boards with a 2nd one continued about Turgeon hall status. It’s not his fault he didn’t play on a Cup team.ratonmono wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:31 pm Carbonneau, Zubov, Wickenheiser, and Nedormansky.
Zubov definitely a no brainer. Interesting that Carbonneau made it after all these years. His defensive game was definitely HOF worthy but offensively not even in the ballpark. Which begs the question why great offensive talents like Mogilny and Turgeon get punished for being "one-dimensional" even though their one dimension was absolutely hall of fame worthy? Just frustrating to me how they have different standards when it comes to offense ot seems to be critically under-rated still in the hockey world.
Edit: I'm not trying to discredit Carbonneau as much as I am trying to make a case for guys like Mogilny and Turgeon.
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8As a (now) Kentuckian, I have to correct you and say it’s standard practice in West Virginia, not Kentucky. Easy to mix upbarnburner wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:33 amPretty much standard practice in Arkansas, and KentuckySTLBlueshistory wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:31 amIn some countries I guess someones father could also be their cousin.Dave's a mess wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:10 pm Alternate headline: Daughter of Blues Legend headlines HOF Class along with 2 other Blues Greats.
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9Keep in mind that I originally came from Arkansas, so......Cotton McKnight wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:28 pmNot all of Arkansas, just the rural areas, where you have less than 5000 people, that's still a great big portion of Arkansas.barnburner wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:33 amPretty much standard practice in Arkansas, and KentuckySTLBlueshistory wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:31 am
In some countries I guess someones father could also be their cousin.
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10Aha, so you know! I don't like to venture out into the wilderness, on some days.barnburner wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:12 amKeep in mind that I originally came from Arkansas, so......Cotton McKnight wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:28 pmNot all of Arkansas, just the rural areas, where you have less than 5000 people, that's still a great big portion of Arkansas.
What part are you from, we moved to Siloam Springs.
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11LOL. Born in a little town called Rector, Ark. Located in the North East corner of the state, about 10 miles north of Heubner (Cotton McKnight wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:07 pmAha, so you know! I don't like to venture out into the wilderness, on some days.barnburner wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:12 amKeep in mind that I originally came from Arkansas, so......Cotton McKnight wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:28 pm
Not all of Arkansas, just the rural areas, where you have less than 5000 people, that's still a great big portion of Arkansas.
What part are you from, we moved to Siloam Springs.
) or 20 miles north of Paragould. Cotton country, although more and more are turning to Rice. 
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13Born in Rector? I always pegged you as a Damnnearkilledor native.barnburner wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:30 pmLOL. Born in a little town called Rector, Ark. Located in the North East corner of the state, about 10 miles north of Heubner (Cotton McKnight wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:07 pmAha, so you know! I don't like to venture out into the wilderness, on some days.barnburner wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:12 am
Keep in mind that I originally came from Arkansas, so......
What part are you from, we moved to Siloam Springs.
...but whatever, the Blues won the Cup!!!!!
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14That was in a previous life.Dave's a mess wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:02 pmBorn in Rector? I always pegged you as a Damnnearkilledor native.barnburner wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:30 pmLOL. Born in a little town called Rector, Ark. Located in the North East corner of the state, about 10 miles north of Heubner (Cotton McKnight wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:07 pm
Aha, so you know! I don't like to venture out into the wilderness, on some days.
What part are you from, we moved to Siloam Springs.
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15I agree. I'll put it back on course. I'll say Doug Wilson should be in before either Carbonneau or Zubov. It's BS that Doug Wilson is not in. He was an impact player, probably a top 5 at his position during his prime.
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16I've heard of Heubner!barnburner wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:30 pmLOL. Born in a little town called Rector, Ark. Located in the North East corner of the state, about 10 miles north of Heubner (Cotton McKnight wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:07 pmAha, so you know! I don't like to venture out into the wilderness, on some days.barnburner wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:12 am
Keep in mind that I originally came from Arkansas, so......
What part are you from, we moved to Siloam Springs.
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17So, you're the one!Cotton McKnight wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:18 pmI've heard of Heubner!barnburner wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:30 pmLOL. Born in a little town called Rector, Ark. Located in the North East corner of the state, about 10 miles north of Heubner (Cotton McKnight wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:07 pm
Aha, so you know! I don't like to venture out into the wilderness, on some days.
What part are you from, we moved to Siloam Springs.
The town consisted of one generalstore/post office, and a collection of farms more or less around the store. My folks sharecropped a farm there before giving it up as hopeless.Re: 2019 HOF class
18I like to drive the back highways when I do road trips, without the wife (car sickness), I've gotten close to Heubner.barnburner wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:13 amSo, you're the one!Cotton McKnight wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:18 pmI've heard of Heubner!barnburner wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:30 pm
LOL. Born in a little town called Rector, Ark. Located in the North East corner of the state, about 10 miles north of Heubner (
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19I doubt the "town" even exists, other than in name anymore.Cotton McKnight wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:33 amI like to drive the back highways when I do road trips, without the wife (car sickness), I've gotten close to Heubner.barnburner wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:13 amSo, you're the one!
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20There are quite a few towns around Siloam Springs like that, I have family in Cincinnati Arkansas, no businesses are open there, just farmers. I find the abandoned towns to be very interesting.barnburner wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:31 pmI doubt the "town" even exists, other than in name anymore.Cotton McKnight wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:33 amI like to drive the back highways when I do road trips, without the wife (car sickness), I've gotten close to Heubner.barnburner wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:13 am
So, you're the one!
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21I hear you have pass the Kentucky Equivalency Test:UMSLBlues12 wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:35 amAs a (now) Kentuckian, I have to correct you and say it’s standard practice in West Virginia, not Kentucky. Easy to mix upbarnburner wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:33 amPretty much standard practice in Arkansas, and KentuckySTLBlueshistory wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:31 am
In some countries I guess someones father could also be their cousin.
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