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ratonmono wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:06 pm
NHLTIM wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:57 am
bradleygt89 wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:35 am

that's awesome, so our taxes will go up to support this spending?? Good to know and glad we no longer have a national budget deficit then here in the USA! And all these big businesses getting handouts...that's surely not a form of socialism is it? I thought capitalism was all about 'survival of the fittest?" Shouldn't a true capitalistic economy just let them fail if they cannot handle a simple little flu epidemic?
I think people making over a certain amount are not getting anything. These checks are not for the rich. I haven’t heard anything about big business getting anything. This money is to help people who’ve lost their jobs or by them some time due to this shutdown as well as help stimulate the economy. The government knows people aren’t going to save that money and the majority will blow it within a week. They are just hoping they spend it on taxable goods and service and not their local drug dealer.
But you’re right ...this is just a little flu outbreak so ask yourself what might the bigger picture really involve here and that’s where it gets pretty scary....or you could just keep believing this is all about a virus.
Are the poor bastards in Italy making decisions on who gets to live and who gets to not have a ventilator today a part of it? If there's an insidious plot behind this, what exactly is it?

Now are people going to take advantage of a shitty situation at the expense of their fellow humans? Absolutely. Just look at the rotten fucks who bought up a shit ton of sanitizer to try and gouge prices. It's pathetic. But I don't believe in conspiracies, we just aren't competent enough to manufacture anything on the scale you're vaguely suggesting. I believe that people are opportunists. Nothing more, nothing less.
Putin could do it.

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ratonmono wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:06 pm
NHLTIM wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:57 am
bradleygt89 wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:35 am

that's awesome, so our taxes will go up to support this spending?? Good to know and glad we no longer have a national budget deficit then here in the USA! And all these big businesses getting handouts...that's surely not a form of socialism is it? I thought capitalism was all about 'survival of the fittest?" Shouldn't a true capitalistic economy just let them fail if they cannot handle a simple little flu epidemic?
I think people making over a certain amount are not getting anything. These checks are not for the rich. I haven’t heard anything about big business getting anything. This money is to help people who’ve lost their jobs or by them some time due to this shutdown as well as help stimulate the economy. The government knows people aren’t going to save that money and the majority will blow it within a week. They are just hoping they spend it on taxable goods and service and not their local drug dealer.
But you’re right ...this is just a little flu outbreak so ask yourself what might the bigger picture really involve here and that’s where it gets pretty scary....or you could just keep believing this is all about a virus.
Are the poor bastards in Italy making decisions on who gets to live and who gets to not have a ventilator today a part of it? If there's an insidious plot behind this, what exactly is it?

Now are people going to take advantage of a shitty situation at the expense of their fellow humans? Absolutely. Just look at the rotten fucks who bought up a shit ton of sanitizer to try and gouge prices. It's pathetic. But I don't believe in conspiracies, we just aren't competent enough to manufacture anything on the scale you're vaguely suggesting. I believe that people are opportunists. Nothing more, nothing less.
Putin could do it.

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ratonmono wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:06 pm
NHLTIM wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:57 am
bradleygt89 wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:35 am

that's awesome, so our taxes will go up to support this spending?? Good to know and glad we no longer have a national budget deficit then here in the USA! And all these big businesses getting handouts...that's surely not a form of socialism is it? I thought capitalism was all about 'survival of the fittest?" Shouldn't a true capitalistic economy just let them fail if they cannot handle a simple little flu epidemic?
I think people making over a certain amount are not getting anything. These checks are not for the rich. I haven’t heard anything about big business getting anything. This money is to help people who’ve lost their jobs or by them some time due to this shutdown as well as help stimulate the economy. The government knows people aren’t going to save that money and the majority will blow it within a week. They are just hoping they spend it on taxable goods and service and not their local drug dealer.
But you’re right ...this is just a little flu outbreak so ask yourself what might the bigger picture really involve here and that’s where it gets pretty scary....or you could just keep believing this is all about a virus.
Are the poor bastards in Italy making decisions on who gets to live and who gets to not have a ventilator today a part of it? If there's an insidious plot behind this, what exactly is it?

Now are people going to take advantage of a shitty situation at the expense of their fellow humans? Absolutely. Just look at the rotten fucks who bought up a shit ton of sanitizer to try and gouge prices. It's pathetic. But I don't believe in conspiracies, we just aren't competent enough to manufacture anything on the scale you're vaguely suggesting. I believe that people are opportunists. Nothing more, nothing less.
Putin could do it.

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CaptSMRT wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:52 pm
ratonmono wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:06 pm
NHLTIM wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:57 am

I think people making over a certain amount are not getting anything. These checks are not for the rich. I haven’t heard anything about big business getting anything. This money is to help people who’ve lost their jobs or by them some time due to this shutdown as well as help stimulate the economy. The government knows people aren’t going to save that money and the majority will blow it within a week. They are just hoping they spend it on taxable goods and service and not their local drug dealer.
But you’re right ...this is just a little flu outbreak so ask yourself what might the bigger picture really involve here and that’s where it gets pretty scary....or you could just keep believing this is all about a virus.
Are the poor bastards in Italy making decisions on who gets to live and who gets to not have a ventilator today a part of it? If there's an insidious plot behind this, what exactly is it?

Now are people going to take advantage of a shitty situation at the expense of their fellow humans? Absolutely. Just look at the rotten fucks who bought up a shit ton of sanitizer to try and gouge prices. It's pathetic. But I don't believe in conspiracies, we just aren't competent enough to manufacture anything on the scale you're vaguely suggesting. I believe that people are opportunists. Nothing more, nothing less.
Putin could do it.
Oh there's no doubt the success that Russian trolls have had in dividing the country. Their tactics are pretty savvy, he figured out the best way to cause divisiveness wasn't just to provoke both sides, but to also spread outrageous garbage claims within like-minded groups to foster emotional responses. Which of course hardens stances and polarizes even further. It's quite brilliant, but I just don't think that his reach is quite as long as a worldwide pandemic. He's another opportunist. Just happens to be one of the very best.

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I guess my only question for those who think the world is grossly overreacting based on the current numbers...which are changing fast...the USA is over 7,663 cases now, is what arbitrary number does the USA and/or world need to get to in confirmed cases and deaths that would merit these extreme measures? Do we need to see 50,000 cases and 1,000 deaths?

100,000 cases and 2,000 deaths in the USA? 500,000 cases? 1,000,000 cases?

At what point do YOU make that call to say "close all restaurant/bar/nightclub/small businesses and schools should be shutdown"?
"Do Only Good Everyday"

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bradleygt89 wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:44 pm I guess my only question for those who think the world is grossly overreacting based on the current numbers...which are changing fast...the USA is over 7,663 cases now, is what arbitrary number does the USA and/or world need to get to in confirmed cases and deaths that would merit these extreme measures? Do we need to see 50,000 cases and 1,000 deaths?

100,000 cases and 2,000 deaths in the USA? 500,000 cases? 1,000,000 cases?

At what point do YOU make that call to say "close all restaurant/bar/nightclub/small businesses and schools should be shutdown"?
We have already have extreme measures in place. All I said was that the current numbers do not support the curve of 214 million sick, and they still don't.

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ratonmono wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:43 pm
CaptSMRT wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:52 pm
ratonmono wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:06 pm

Are the poor bastards in Italy making decisions on who gets to live and who gets to not have a ventilator today a part of it? If there's an insidious plot behind this, what exactly is it?

Now are people going to take advantage of a shitty situation at the expense of their fellow humans? Absolutely. Just look at the rotten fucks who bought up a shit ton of sanitizer to try and gouge prices. It's pathetic. But I don't believe in conspiracies, we just aren't competent enough to manufacture anything on the scale you're vaguely suggesting. I believe that people are opportunists. Nothing more, nothing less.
Putin could do it.
Oh there's no doubt the success that Russian trolls have had in dividing the country. Their tactics are pretty savvy, he figured out the best way to cause divisiveness wasn't just to provoke both sides, but to also spread outrageous garbage claims within like-minded groups to foster emotional responses. Which of course hardens stances and polarizes even further. It's quite brilliant, but I just don't think that his reach is quite as long as a worldwide pandemic. He's another opportunist. Just happens to be one of the very best.
So, the Clintons aren't really sex trafficking out of a D.C. pizza parlor? .... Put the guns back in the safe, Marge.

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Turk Sanderson wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:09 pm
ratonmono wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:43 pm
CaptSMRT wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:52 pm

Putin could do it.
Oh there's no doubt the success that Russian trolls have had in dividing the country. Their tactics are pretty savvy, he figured out the best way to cause divisiveness wasn't just to provoke both sides, but to also spread outrageous garbage claims within like-minded groups to foster emotional responses. Which of course hardens stances and polarizes even further. It's quite brilliant, but I just don't think that his reach is quite as long as a worldwide pandemic. He's another opportunist. Just happens to be one of the very best.
So, the Clintons aren't really sex trafficking out of a D.C. pizza parlor? .... Put the guns back in the safe, Marge.
I would say Jones is another opportunist but he may actually be crazy enough to believe the garbage he’s spewing. 😂😳

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ratonmono wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:49 pm
Turk Sanderson wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:09 pm
ratonmono wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:43 pm

Oh there's no doubt the success that Russian trolls have had in dividing the country. Their tactics are pretty savvy, he figured out the best way to cause divisiveness wasn't just to provoke both sides, but to also spread outrageous garbage claims within like-minded groups to foster emotional responses. Which of course hardens stances and polarizes even further. It's quite brilliant, but I just don't think that his reach is quite as long as a worldwide pandemic. He's another opportunist. Just happens to be one of the very best.
So, the Clintons aren't really sex trafficking out of a D.C. pizza parlor? .... Put the guns back in the safe, Marge.
I would say Jones is another opportunist but he may actually be crazy enough to believe the garbage he’s spewing. 😂😳
Hilllary Clinton is eating hella babies while she is quarantined.

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CaptSMRT wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:45 am
ratonmono wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:49 pm
Turk Sanderson wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:09 pm
So, the Clintons aren't really sex trafficking out of a D.C. pizza parlor? .... Put the guns back in the safe, Marge.
I would say Jones is another opportunist but he may actually be crazy enough to believe the garbage he’s spewing. 😂😳

Hilllary Clinton is eating hella babies while she is quarantined.
A sentence that has never been typed or said in the history of the world :lol:
KA-KAW!

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i was going to split this thread and create a cornoavirus thread in OT, but when i looked through it, i think exactly one post is hockey related. you guys went full virus immediately. so i just moved the whole post. talk virus all you want here. anything actually pertaining to hockey will be in the hockey forum.

stay safe out there.