President Trump! 2nd in the polls! He's AWESOME!

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Keep in mind when talking about presidential candidates we are talking about the lesser of all evils.

With that in mind many people love the way Trump speaks his mind and NEVER backs down! He has skyrocket to 2nd place in the polls and EVERYONE says he's great to listen to. He's great on border security, national security, trade, and the economy!

I'm not saying he'll win but he will most definitely reshape this election and get other candidates talking about issues they otherwise wouldn't have.

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I agree. His personal success is undeniable. There is no way to know if his personal success principles would aid in helping our nations financial woes, however, he is definitely a lightning rod for meaningful conversations.

It will be interesting to see the role he plays as republican candidate process continues.

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If the reaction to Trump's political aspirations in St. Louis is really positive, then St. Louis is truly a lost cause and a place I'd rather not call home. The man is an absolute joke of a candidate. Good news is he has no chance of ever seeing the presidency.

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COME ON you guys! All the other candidates put you to sleep! Only Trump will really FIGHT for us! You notice the other candidates are afraid to take him head on!

Look how popular Trump is. He has 3.1 million Twitter followers and NO other candidate has as many except Hillary with only 3.7m. No other GOP candidate has anywhere near as many followers as Trump! Just wait for the debates next month when Trump kicks all their butts!

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JesusNEVERexisted wrote:COME ON you guys! All the other candidates put you to sleep! Only Trump will really FIGHT for us! You notice the other candidates are afraid to take him head on!

Look how popular Trump is. He has 3.1 million Twitter followers and NO other candidate has as many except Hillary with only 3.7m. No other GOP candidate has anywhere near as many followers as Trump! Just wait for the debates next month when Trump kicks all their butts!
Are you running a high fever man? Twitter followers should determine the viability of a presidential candidate? Trump doing anything but flinging feces all over the place in a debate would be an absolute shock.
Guess it's good if you're a blindly loyal party Democrat as the GOP is a complete mockery as far as national elections go right now due to their bat shit crazy, far right candidates. Good for the other party, bad for our Republic.

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JesusNEVERexisted wrote:He's run a HUGE international business with 10s of thousands of employees! He knows international dignitaries and has traveled globally more than any other GOP candidate. He knows the economy. He WILL secure the border. He'll get tough with China, Russia, & Mexico!

What's not to like?
He is a con man and a failure...4 chapter 11s and now the fraud lawsuits over Trump University.

Sometimes I think you should try meds or therapy. From Wikipedia


Trump manages business financing as far as possible without placing himself at risk of personal bankruptcy.[131] Four of his businesses have declared Chapter 11 bankruptcy.[131][132] According to a 2011 report by Forbes, these were due to over-leveraged hotel and casino businesses in Atlantic City: Trump’s Taj Mahal (1991), Trump Plaza Hotel (1992), Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts (2004), and Trump Entertainment Resorts (2009)[133][134] Trump said "I've used the laws of this country to pare debt. ... We'll have the company. We'll throw it into a chapter. We'll negotiate with the banks. We'll make a fantastic deal. You know, it's like on 'The Apprentice.' It's not personal. It's just business."[135] He indicated that other "great entrepreneurs" do the same.[133] Robert Reich took a critical view of his bankruptcy proceedings opining that "people with lots of money can easily avoid the consequences of bad bets" and are protected by limited liability in contrast to laid-off workers who "are stuck with the mess."[136]

Trump’s first corporate bankruptcy was in 1991 when Trump Taj Mahal was unable to pay its obligations.[135] Forbes indicated that his first bankruptcy was the only one where his personal wealth was involved. Time, however, maintains that also in the later 2004 bankruptcy $72 million personal money was involved.[137]

On November 2, 1992, the Trump Plaza Hotel filed a prepackaged Chapter 11 protection plan. Under the plan, Trump agreed to give up a 49 percent stake in the luxury hotel to Citibank and five other lenders.[138] In return Trump would receive more favorable terms on the remaining $550+ million owed to the lenders, and retain his position as chief executive, though he would not be paid and would not have a role in day-to-day operations.[139] Trump's name became a punchline for comedians, "associated with the worst of 1980s extravagance, egomania, and greed."[138]

In the subsequent restructuring of these two events Trump had eliminated a large portion of his $900 million personal debt by 1994[140] and reduced significantly his nearly $3.5 billion in business debt. While he was forced to relinquish the Trump Princess yacht and the Trump Shuttle (which he had bought in 1989), he managed to retain Trump Tower in New York City and control of his three casinos in Atlantic City. Chase Manhattan Bank, which lent Trump the money to buy the West Side yards, his biggest Manhattan parcel, forced the sale of the tract to Asian developers. According to former members of the Trump Organization, Trump did not retain any ownership of the site's real estate – the owners merely promised to give him about 30 percent of the profits once the site was completely developed or sold. Until that time, the owners of The West Side Yards gave him modest construction and management fees to oversee the development, and allowed him to put his name on the buildings that eventually rose on the yards because his well-known moniker allowed them to charge a premium for their condos.[141] In 1995, he combined his casino holdings into the publicly held Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts. Wall Street drove its stock above $35 in 1996, but by 1998 it had fallen into single digits as the company remained profitless.

The third corporate bankruptcy was on October 21, 2004, when Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts announced a restructuring of its debt.[142] The plan called for Trump's individual ownership to be reduced from 56 percent to 27 percent, with bondholders receiving stock in exchange for surrendering part of the debt. Trump Hotels was forced to seek voluntary bankruptcy protection to stay afloat. After the company applied for Chapter 11 Protection in November 2004, Trump relinquished his CEO position but retained a role as Chairman of the Board. In May 2005[143] the company emerged from bankruptcy as Trump Entertainment Resorts Holdings.[144]

The most recent corporate bankruptcy occurred in 2009. On February 13, Trump announced that he would resign from the board of Trump Entertainment Resorts and four days later the company filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy.[145] At that time Trump Entertainment Resorts had three properties in Atlantic City: Trump Taj Mahal, Trump Plaza, and Trump Marina (sold in 2011). In early August 2014 Donald Trump filed a lawsuit requesting his name be removed from the Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino and the Taj Mahal facilities since he no longer runs or controls the company.[146] Trump Entertainment Resorts filed again for bankruptcy in 2014.[147]

In March 1990, after an analyst at Janney Montgomery Scott said that Trump's Taj Mahal project would initially "break records" but would fail before the end of that year, Trump threatened to sue the firm unless the analyst recanted or was fired. The analyst refused to retract the statements, and was fired by his firm.[148] Taj Mahal declared bankruptcy for the first time in November 1990.[149] A defamation lawsuit by the analyst against Trump for $2 million was settled out of court.[150] The analyst's statements regarding the Taj Mahal's prospects were later called "stunningly accurate."[151]

In January 2002, the Securities and Exchange Commission brought a financial-reporting case against Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts Inc., alleging that it had committed several "misleading statements in the company's third-quarter 1999 earnings release." The matter was settled with the defendant neither admitting nor denying the charge.[152]

During the 2008 financial crisis Trump International Hotel and Tower in Chicago was unable to sell sufficient units. Lender Deutsche Bank refused to let Trump lower the prices on the units to spur sales. Arguing that the financial crisis and resulting drop in the real estate market is due to circumstances beyond his control, Trump invoked a clause in the contract to not pay the loan.[153] Trump then initiated a suit asserting that his image had been damaged. Both parties agreed to drop their suits, and sale of the units went on.[154]

In 2015 Trump initiated a $100 million lawsuit against Palm Beach County claiming that officials pressured the FAA to direct air traffic to the Palm Beach International Airport in a "deliberate and malicious" act over his Mar-A-Lago estate.[155] The air traffic is allegedly damaging the construction of the building and disrupting its ambience. Trump had previously sued twice over airport noise.[155]

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Even the NY Post says Trump has a chance! Surging in the polls!

Polls show President Trump not so far-fetched

WASHINGTON — Republicans who started off viewing Donald Trump as an amusing sideshow are starting to fret that the real estate billionaire is becoming the main event.

Since he defied skeptics and launched his presidential bid last month, Trump has rocketed in the polls, dominated media coverage and helped steer the debate on issues.

“I don’t know that he even knows how far he takes this,” former Rep. Thomas Reynolds (R-NY), who is close to GOP candidate and ex-Gov. George Pataki, told The Post. “He has the wherewithal . . . He has put together a pretty wholesale ground force in New Hampshire, and that has to be taken seriously.”

Trump accounted for a stunning 48 percent of all social-media and tra­di­tional-media conversation about politics over the last week, according to analytics group Zignal labs for The Washington Post. Trump had 1.9 million mentions, compared with just 448,000 for top Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Trump’s presidential rivals at first steered clear of his controversial comments about Mexican “rapists” pouring into the country — although several took opportunities in the last week to distance themselves from Trump. The pushback doesn’t seem to have hurt Trump, who continues to poll strongly and is assured a spot in next month’s Republican debate on Fox.

Trump told NBC’s “Today” show on Thursday he had “nothing to apologize for” and credits himself with raising the immigration issue in the campaign.

Trump’s success in early polling is undeniable.

He even leads the latest North Carolina poll, by Public Policy Polling, with 16 percent. He’s second to Jeb Bush in the latest CNN national poll and is also running second in Iowa.



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JMC-STL wrote:
JesusNEVERexisted wrote:Even the NY Post says Trump has a chance! ...
Ah, The Post, who gave America the late editor Vinnie Musetto and his classic tabloid headline ...

"HEADLESS BODY IN TOPLESS BAR"
Yes Sir.

I am not surprised JNE uses that Paper as a resource.

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JesusNEVERexisted wrote:Even the NY Post says Trump has a chance! Surging in the polls!

Polls show President Trump not so far-fetched

WASHINGTON — Republicans who started off viewing Donald Trump as an amusing sideshow are starting to fret that the real estate billionaire is becoming the main event.

Since he defied skeptics and launched his presidential bid last month, Trump has rocketed in the polls, dominated media coverage and helped steer the debate on issues.

“I don’t know that he even knows how far he takes this,” former Rep. Thomas Reynolds (R-NY), who is close to GOP candidate and ex-Gov. George Pataki, told The Post. “He has the wherewithal . . . He has put together a pretty wholesale ground force in New Hampshire, and that has to be taken seriously.”

Trump accounted for a stunning 48 percent of all social-media and tra­di­tional-media conversation about politics over the last week, according to analytics group Zignal labs for The Washington Post. Trump had 1.9 million mentions, compared with just 448,000 for top Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Trump’s presidential rivals at first steered clear of his controversial comments about Mexican “rapists” pouring into the country — although several took opportunities in the last week to distance themselves from Trump. The pushback doesn’t seem to have hurt Trump, who continues to poll strongly and is assured a spot in next month’s Republican debate on Fox.

Trump told NBC’s “Today” show on Thursday he had “nothing to apologize for” and credits himself with raising the immigration issue in the campaign.

Trump’s success in early polling is undeniable.

He even leads the latest North Carolina poll, by Public Policy Polling, with 16 percent. He’s second to Jeb Bush in the latest CNN national poll and is also running second in Iowa.



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WHY would any middle class Republican ( or any Republican who pays attention to his history of failures)) VOTE for him?

He is a Con Man and a loser who has such a powerful Con that he burned all his investors and turned his Daddy's Millions into Billions by going BK FOUR TIMES

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You Trump haters are DELUSIONAL! Trump has accomplished more in his life than you haters could in a 1000 lifetimes! Trump has a multi BILLION dollar company, has BILLIONS in property all over the world, and has 10s of thousands of employees!! People love Trump because he CANNOT be bought by lobbyists and special interests like the other candidates can!

You morons criticize from you rinky dink little house with a 2 car garage & a dog making less than 100K a year! It's because of fake losers like you why Trump is winning! You KNOW he will annihilate all other GOP candidates in the debates because they are pathetic doormats that Trump will destroy!

The more people criticize Trump the more popular he gets!

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You are a liar and on the ragged edge of insanity.

HOW did Trump EARN his money?
By cheating, misleading and FAILING his Investors and THEN, using the U.S. bankruptcy laws to make money for HIMSELF.

I am SURE The Donald has a Bridge to sell you...and I am SURE that you would put that hook and worm in your mouth before I could say Jack Robinson.



There IS a sucker born every minute.
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From the Ethics Scoreboard:

. But looking to Donald Trump to teach you the secret of becoming rich is exactly like paying Charlize Theron to tell you the secret of she being beautiful.

The truth is, their secrets are the exactly same: they were born that way---Charlize gorgeous, The Donald loaded. Donald Trump's father, Fred Trump, was a bona fide self-made man and real estate tycoon who brought his son into the business. Many of Trump's web biographies talk of him "sharing an office with his father" like theirs was a tiny struggling two-man shop up a couple flights of stairs in an old warehouse. Nothing could be farther from the case. The younger Trump showed an aptitude for real estate wheeling and dealing (and an even greater talent for self-promotion) that allowed him to parlay his share of his father's already successful business into a fortune of several hundred million by the 1980s, but as detailed in a 2005 profile by Timothy O'Brien in the New York Times, Trump had blown through it all by the mid-nineties and was in serious debt. Only 20 million dollars in loans from his rich siblings (each had inherited 35 million from father Fred, who was by then deceased) kept Trump afloat and allowed him to stage a comeback.

And this,

The success of his pitch to the desperate wannabes and clueless is based on their erroneous assumption, nurtured by Trump but not explicitly supported by him, that he can teach them to do what they think he did…make himself rich through hard work and a business savvy. But what Trump is best qualified to teach is how to make yourself richer when you inherit an established business and have millions of dollars plunked into your waiting hands after your Dad has sent you to Wharton.

The fact that Trump doesn't lie outright about his background but simply allows his marks to jump to the wrong conclusions puts his "get rich like me" marketing efforts in the category of deceit…but deceit is still dishonesty. Trump undoubtedly has useful wisdom to impart about building a successful career; it's not as easy to stay rich as some people think. Ask most state lottery winners. Still, the most vivid lesson of Donald Trump's successful campaign to sell himself as a self-made billionaire is the lesson that 19th Century con-man Joe Bessimer pronounced more than a century ago:

There's a sucker born every minute.


The fact that YOU, who SEEMS to have devoted a bit of work into a crusade against religions, are duped by this EASILY DISCOVERED BULLSHIT.....

Re: Charlize ..

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umslbirdie wrote:From the Ethics Scoreboard:

But looking to Donald Trump to teach you the secret of becoming rich is exactly like paying Charlize Theron to tell you the secret of she being beautiful. ...
Charlize Theron - now THAT'S an O.T.-worthy topic for you ...
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There have books written on the dirty dealings of the Clintons! Most Americans find Hillary untrustworthy.

Trump has built a multi BILLION dollar international company. No governor or senator can compare to what Trump has accomplished. Politicians are all talk and no ACTION! That's why congress has an 8% approval rating!

Jeffrey Lord from American Spectator was on CNN yesterday. He said the same things said about Trump were said about Reagan and look what happened there? Reagan was a pathetic washed up B movie actor. Trump is clearly more accomplished.

Lord said many in the GOP like Perry and Rockefeller said "Reagan is not a serious candidate", " a minority of a minority", and "could never win".

People who simply dismiss Trump do so at their own peril! More pundits are realizing he's not going anywhere like how NPR's Mara Liasson just said.