Re: 2021 St. Louis Blues Thread

#255
There sure are a lot of fans out there who have short memories and bad depth perception to reality. The crying about Berube is starting to red line. The coach who did what no other coach has ever been able to do in the history of the franchise., and now he is dumb because he put Tarasenko on the third line or didn't play Hoffman enough. Go fuck yourself if you hate Berube.

Re: 2021 St. Louis Blues Thread

#256
CaptSMRT wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:39 am
There sure are a lot of fans out there who have short memories and bad depth perception to reality. The crying about Berube is starting to red line. The coach who did what no other coach has ever been able to do in the history of the franchise., and now he is dumb because he put Tarasenko on the third line or didn't play Hoffman enough. Go fuck yourself if you hate Berube.
Seconded. I haven't liked the Hoffman fit for a while. He turns the puck over sooooooo much. He's a frustrating player to watch on a nightly basis, but it's worth it if he's ripping in "easy" goals once in a while...which he hasn't been. Tarasenko will be fine I think, and I don't even think this is a demotion per se, more of just spreading out the lines. He's still on PP1.
...but whatever, the Blues won the Cup!!!!!

Re: 2021 St. Louis Blues Thread

#257
Hoffman was a bad signing from day one. If you aren’t going to let Mike Hoffman be Mike Hoffman....why even sign him. Haula was the guy they should have signed.
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Re: 2021 St. Louis Blues Thread

#258
Dave's a mess wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:54 am
CaptSMRT wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:39 am
There sure are a lot of fans out there who have short memories and bad depth perception to reality. The crying about Berube is starting to red line. The coach who did what no other coach has ever been able to do in the history of the franchise., and now he is dumb because he put Tarasenko on the third line or didn't play Hoffman enough. Go fuck yourself if you hate Berube.
Seconded. I haven't liked the Hoffman fit for a while. He turns the puck over sooooooo much. He's a frustrating player to watch on a nightly basis, but it's worth it if he's ripping in "easy" goals once in a while...which he hasn't been. Tarasenko will be fine I think, and I don't even think this is a demotion per se, more of just spreading out the lines. He's still on PP1.
As if every loss is only a few Hoffman shifts away from a win. Tarasenko is coming back from an injury....WTF is he supposed to do...take top line mins before he has had enough games to get up to speed?

Re: 2021 St. Louis Blues Thread

#259
CaptSMRT wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:27 pm
... Tarasenko is coming back from an injury....WTF is he supposed to do...take top line mins before he has had enough games to get up to speed?
He should've rehabbed in Russia. Got himself all shot up with that miracle Sputnik COVID vaccine. Then he'd be scoring Red Berenson hat tricks every night, and he could cure the entire Canucks team & staff via a Zoom call.

Re: 2021 St. Louis Blues Thread

#260
CaptSMRT wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:27 pm
Dave's a mess wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:54 am
CaptSMRT wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:39 am
There sure are a lot of fans out there who have short memories and bad depth perception to reality. The crying about Berube is starting to red line. The coach who did what no other coach has ever been able to do in the history of the franchise., and now he is dumb because he put Tarasenko on the third line or didn't play Hoffman enough. Go fuck yourself if you hate Berube.
Seconded. I haven't liked the Hoffman fit for a while. He turns the puck over sooooooo much. He's a frustrating player to watch on a nightly basis, but it's worth it if he's ripping in "easy" goals once in a while...which he hasn't been. Tarasenko will be fine I think, and I don't even think this is a demotion per se, more of just spreading out the lines. He's still on PP1.
As if every loss is only a few Hoffman shifts away from a win. Tarasenko is coming back from an injury....WTF is he supposed to do...take top line mins before he has had enough games to get up to speed?
Yeah. I don't even mind that Hoffman isn't like a forechecking missle. As Tim said, he's never going to be that. What bothers me is that almost EVERY time the puck is on his stick, the other team has it within 3 seconds. I swear if he's not firing a shot, he doesn't know what the hell to do with it. It's remarkable. I have been surprised by his willingness to get back on D, he's at least in the right zone on time, even if he's not the most stout once he's there. Whatever, problems run far deeper, as you alluded to. Tarasenko is gonna be fine, and as we saw a few games ago, may actually have that one timer we've been begging for for years.
...but whatever, the Blues won the Cup!!!!!

Re: 2021 St. Louis Blues Thread

#263
CaptSMRT wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:30 pm
NHLTIM wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:06 pm
Call me crazy but I’d move Tarasenko right now if we could get a quality young NHL roster player and A level prospect.
Yeah....but Army will never do that
He's gonna have to do something eventually....more guys due for more money. Somebody is definitely going before the 2021-22 season
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Re: 2021 St. Louis Blues Thread

#264
NHLTIM wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:48 pm
CaptSMRT wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:30 pm
NHLTIM wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:06 pm
Call me crazy but I’d move Tarasenko right now if we could get a quality young NHL roster player and A level prospect.
Yeah....but Army will never do that
He's gonna have to do something eventually....more guys due for more money. Somebody is definitely going before the 2021-22 season
Yeah I don't know if I'd put anything past Army. I'm sure he's not loving what he's seen this year. I'd consider anything in the offseason.
...but whatever, the Blues won the Cup!!!!!

Re: 2021 St. Louis Blues Thread

#265
I was listening to the 31 Thoughts Podcast this morning. Both Elliotte Friedman and Chris Johnston thought the Blues added something small, but moreso than with any of the other 30 teams they went through, it sounded like they were just absolutely guessing. Adding anything seems absolutely insane to me. If Army sits pat, I get it, but I think he pulls the chute if anybody offers a first rounder for certain players.
...but whatever, the Blues won the Cup!!!!!

Re: 2021 St. Louis Blues Thread

#267
I don't want to sound all doom and gloom but I'm really worried about the Blues both now and moving forward.

We have two defensemen on long-term contracts who seem more like really good 2nd pair guys than top pair guys.

Binnington has pretty much sucked since the COVID pause and he's signed to 6x6 that hasn't even started yet. Husso hasn't shown he's an NHL level backup.

Tarasenko doesn't look like pre-surgery Tarasenko.

We don't exactly have a stacked farm system of cheap young talent.

Guys who we were hoping would take big steps forward this year (Parayko, Thomas) haven't, although perhaps due to injuries.

Where are the positives? I just at this point don't see this team being good this year or a conceivable way they're good next year without major changes.

Re: 2021 St. Louis Blues Thread

#268
We have to move on from a couple of high priced players. We don’t need to rebuild , we just need to retool. What we need is couple of young NHL rosters players and a couple of A level prospects. We have players that can land that type of package.
I think Doug has to try and gauge interest level in Krug over the summer. If there is a deal to be made than he needs to. We build the defense around Parayko and Faulk and we bring a UFA dman in.
I don’t know if Doug can really do anything right now that will play a huge part in a retool but over the summer I expect some fireworks.
The offense is built around ROR, Schenn and Thomas. You move Tarasenko for sure...there is enough “what if” there that numerous GM’s will take that chance. The Islanders seem like a fantastic landing spot for him and they have exactly what we need. Doug has a lot of work to do and he needs to push loyalty aside. If he lets this fester it’s only going to implode. Covid excuses should be over and hopefully he sees that or doesn’t plan on using it.
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Re: 2021 St. Louis Blues Thread

#269
UMSLBlues12 wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:27 am
I don't want to sound all doom and gloom but I'm really worried about the Blues both now and moving forward.

We have two defensemen on long-term contracts who seem more like really good 2nd pair guys than top pair guys.

Binnington has pretty much sucked since the COVID pause and he's signed to 6x6 that hasn't even started yet. Husso hasn't shown he's an NHL level backup.

Tarasenko doesn't look like pre-surgery Tarasenko.

We don't exactly have a stacked farm system of cheap young talent.

Guys who we were hoping would take big steps forward this year (Parayko, Thomas) haven't, although perhaps due to injuries.

Where are the positives? I just at this point don't see this team being good this year or a conceivable way they're good next year without major changes.
I think there are changes coming that should be able to help this team get back on the right track next year. To me goaltending is by far the biggest concern. If I'm being generous I'd say Binnington has been streaky since December 2019. If I'm being realistic I'd say Binnington has been shitty since December 2019. I think he definitely needs a vetaran that can carry the load from time to time to back him up. Husso isn't NHL ready and who knows if he will be. I think Parayko and Thomas will be fine long term provided Parayko's back injury doesn't become a chronic issue. The positives out of this year have been Kyrou making a big leap at the NHL level, and Faulk looking like the guy we traded for rather than the one struggling to find his role last year.
...but whatever, the Blues won the Cup!!!!!

Re: 2021 St. Louis Blues Thread

#272
Binners magic is gone and so is the team. Not a surprise. And Blues miss Allen too. Ends up keeping Allen was > than acquiring Hoffman. Injuries were crazy, team never got on a roll. This team is still potentially crazy good IMO. This season does look lost but I expect Army to reboot this team with some moves.

Re: 2021 St. Louis Blues Thread

#273
NHLTIM wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:06 pm
Call me crazy but I’d move Tarasenko right now if we could get a quality young NHL roster player and A level prospect.
I've been thinking the same thing. I know it is an early sample, but Kyrou seems to bring some of the same qualities as a young Vladi did. I also wonder if there is room for both of them on the same team. Kyrous game has dropped off noticeably since Vladi returned. It's almost like he feels like he's playing in Vladi's shadow or something. He was playing fearless hockey, now he is questioning every move.

I just don't see Vladi ever coming back close to what he was. I hate this, as he really seems to love playing here, but Army is nothing but business first when it comes to personnel decisions.

Re: 2021 St. Louis Blues Thread

#274
BillP. wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:20 pm
Binners magic is gone and so is the team. Not a surprise. And Blues miss Allen too. Ends up keeping Allen was > than acquiring Hoffman. Injuries were crazy, team never got on a roll. This team is still potentially crazy good IMO. This season does look lost but I expect Army to reboot this team with some moves.
That's an interesting point Bill. In effect we traded Allen for Hoffman. We didn't have enough money to sign Jake to a reasonable back up contract (all he asked for) but we were able to pony up for Hoffman, who we paid almost twice as much for. I guess it all looked good at the start of the season, not so much now.

Re: 2021 St. Louis Blues Thread

#275
Offer the Ducks Krug, Hoffman and Clifford for Deslauriers, HAKANPÄÄ, and Getzlaf... it's a hockey trade that benefits both teams... Blues get Getzlaf who can still play, and more importantly, settle this bunch down, Hakanpaa who is a legit defender, and Deslauriers who can kick anybody's ass ... which Clifford has lost any interest in doing.... The $$$ the Ducks would normally eat in the Getzlaf trade is offset by the $$$ taken back in the Krug / Hoffman part of the deal. Deslauriers for Clifford is a wash salary wise... Krug becomes the centerpiece, signed at a decent long-term contract... Getzlaf and Hoffman are UFA next year, so the Blues get shed of the Krug/ Hoffman and and come away with a legit 3rd/ 4th line ass-kicker. Hakanpaa would be back home where he belongs and would not be being pushed around like some of these pretenders we're watching now,
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