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Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:29 pm
by Dave's a mess
BluesSK wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:58 pm This looks to be the classic trade that made both teams worse.
I don't know, seems like it only makes Minnesota worse to me. I don't understand this for them at all.

Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:07 pm
by BluesSK
Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:29 pm
BluesSK wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:58 pm This looks to be the classic trade that made both teams worse.
I don't know, seems like it only makes Minnesota worse to me. I don't understand this for them at all.
I think Staal was pretty comfortable in Minnesota. I don't know how motivated he will be to play in Buffalo.

You're right I don't understand this trade from the Wild perspective unless it was about salary.

Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:32 am
by BillP.
BluesSK wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:07 pm
Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:29 pm
BluesSK wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:58 pm This looks to be the classic trade that made both teams worse.
I don't know, seems like it only makes Minnesota worse to me. I don't understand this for them at all.
I think Staal was pretty comfortable in Minnesota. I don't know how motivated he will be to play in Buffalo.

You're right I don't understand this trade from the Wild perspective unless it was about salary.

Trade makes zero sense. They need to check Guerin for concussion issues. Staal, who loved Minnesota, took less money to play in Minnesota, who has played well in Minnesota, and makes 1M less than Johannsen, gets traded for a lesser player with a bigger cap. WTF

Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:48 am
by Dave's a mess
BillP. wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:32 am
BluesSK wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:07 pm
Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:29 pm

I don't know, seems like it only makes Minnesota worse to me. I don't understand this for them at all.
I think Staal was pretty comfortable in Minnesota. I don't know how motivated he will be to play in Buffalo.

You're right I don't understand this trade from the Wild perspective unless it was about salary.

Trade makes zero sense. They need to check Guerin for concussion issues. Staal, who loved Minnesota, took less money to play in Minnesota, who has played well in Minnesota, and makes 1M less than Johannsen, gets traded for a lesser player with a bigger cap. WTF
What's worse is that they're planning on moving Johansson to back to center where he's played before but is far more effective on the wing. I thought maybe there was a contractual reason for it, but nope, both UFA after next season. Guerin had a few quotes making it seem like this was basically a trade for the sake of shaking up the status quo, and that it is likely only the first of many. We'll see if it works, but it sure is good for entertainment value.

Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:29 pm
by Dave's a mess
File this under "pertinent to Pietrangelo, A"

Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:44 pm
by Dave's a mess
Dave's a mess wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:29 pm File this under "pertinent to Pietrangelo, A"

Bonuses and NMC supposedly. Petry is 32 already and contract kicks in AFTER next season.

Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:47 am
by Dave's a mess
We missed this one a few days ago:

Wings grab a second round pick (in next year's draft) for taking on the last year of Staal's contract at $5.75M. Nice use of cap space, plus he'll be good in the room. The Rangers have a lot of RFAs and UFAs, but nobody due for a huge contract. They've also got to figure out what's happening with their 3 goalie situation. Wonder if that extra cap space they just cleared up might let them make a bit of a splash.

Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:54 am
by BillP.
Dave's a mess wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:47 am We missed this one a few days ago:

Wings grab a second round pick (in next year's draft) for taking on the last year of Staal's contract at $5.75M. Nice use of cap space, plus he'll be good in the room. The Rangers have a lot of RFAs and UFAs, but nobody due for a huge contract. They've also got to figure out what's happening with their 3 goalie situation. Wonder if that extra cap space they just cleared up might let them make a bit of a splash.

Rangers buy Lundqvist out and Army picks him up for a song.

Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:10 am
by Dave's a mess
BillP. wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:54 am
Dave's a mess wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:47 am We missed this one a few days ago:

Wings grab a second round pick (in next year's draft) for taking on the last year of Staal's contract at $5.75M. Nice use of cap space, plus he'll be good in the room. The Rangers have a lot of RFAs and UFAs, but nobody due for a huge contract. They've also got to figure out what's happening with their 3 goalie situation. Wonder if that extra cap space they just cleared up might let them make a bit of a splash.

Rangers buy Lundqvist out and Army picks him up for a song.
Honestly I'd be on board with it just to stare at his hair while he's on the bench.

Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:46 pm
by Dave's a mess
Here we go...

Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:26 am
by Cujo's Mask
Henrik officially bought out.

Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:37 pm
by BillP.
Lot of good free agent forwards on market, more good ones than i thought, but i find it odd that NHL.com lists the Blues as a possible landing spot for Jumbo Joe. I was hoping for someone else, but nope, its Joe.

Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:06 pm
by barnburner
BillP. wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:37 pm Lot of good free agent forwards on market, more good ones than i thought, but i find it odd that NHL.com lists the Blues as a possible landing spot for Jumbo Joe. I was hoping for someone else, but nope, its Joe.
That, would make me a blackhawks fan.

Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:08 pm
by JMC-STL
Dave's a mess wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:10 am
BillP. wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:54 amRangers buy Lundqvist out and Army picks him up for a song.
Honestly I'd be on board with it just to stare at his hair while he's on the bench.
Damn, you ARE a mess, Dave. :roll:

Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:23 pm
by BluesSK
Cujo's Mask wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:26 am Henrik officially bought out.
I bet he stays in New York.

Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:00 pm
by Dave's a mess
BluesSK wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:23 pm
Cujo's Mask wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:26 am Henrik officially bought out.
I bet he stays in New York.
Maybe, but will he play hockey there?

Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:03 pm
by Dave's a mess
Fresh Trade Bait list, topped by OEL. Some interesting names on there:
https://www.tsn.ca/trade-bait-frozen-ca ... -1.1532623

Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 2:00 pm
by BluesSK
Dave's a mess wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:00 pm
BluesSK wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:23 pm
Cujo's Mask wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:26 am Henrik officially bought out.
I bet he stays in New York.
Maybe, but will he play hockey there?
Islanders are a serious contender. He could play for them while being paid by the Rangers and still live at home.

Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:42 am
by Dave's a mess
What are you up to this Saturday morning? I got some munchkins at Dunks, but if you're an NHL free agent goalie chances are you were signing a contract:







Lehner is the big one, and it's nice to see Elliott sign in a place he likes. Jarry all but confirms Matt Murray is getting traded you'd think. Also supposedly San Jose is trading for Dubnyk. They just want all the bad goalies they can get!

Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:22 pm
by BluesSK
Dave's a mess wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:42 am What are you up to this Saturday morning? I got some munchkins at Dunks, but if you're an NHL free agent goalie chances are you were signing a contract:







Lehner is the big one, and it's nice to see Elliott sign in a place he likes. Jarry all but confirms Matt Murray is getting traded you'd think. Also supposedly San Jose is trading for Dubnyk. They just want all the bad goalies they can get!
That Jarry contract is kind of strange. It's not really starter money and Matt Murray is only a 26 year old RFA. Teams must really be tightening their belts.

Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:42 pm
by Dave's a mess
BluesSK wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:22 pm
Dave's a mess wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:42 am What are you up to this Saturday morning? I got some munchkins at Dunks, but if you're an NHL free agent goalie chances are you were signing a contract:







Lehner is the big one, and it's nice to see Elliott sign in a place he likes. Jarry all but confirms Matt Murray is getting traded you'd think. Also supposedly San Jose is trading for Dubnyk. They just want all the bad goalies they can get!
That Jarry contract is kind of strange. It's not really starter money and Matt Murray is only a 26 year old RFA. Teams must really be tightening their belts.
That, but also Murray has been pretty lousy 2 of the last 3 years. Your point about not starter money is a good one. I guess they could probably keep Murray if they don't like the offers out there.

Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:40 pm
by Dread_Pirate_Westley


The LA Kings have acquired defenseman Olli Maatta from the Chicago Blackhawks in exchange for forward Brad Morrison

Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:41 pm
by ratonmono
Giving big money to just about any goalie these days is the height of stupidity. Lundqvist and Price might be the last of the 65+ starter days and Hank is clearly past that and has been for a minute. There just aren’t many standouts at the position any longer. The worst goalie in the league isn’t that far off from the top goalie. It makes sense given the evolution of the position to become more mechanical and less athletic.

Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:53 pm
by Matangama
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:40 pm

The LA Kings have acquired defenseman Olli Maatta from the Chicago Blackhawks in exchange for forward Brad Morrison
Maatta is a steaming pile of shit, and always has been. Morrison is a nobody. Bottom line, nothing but a salary dump for Chicago.

Re: NHL Offseason Trades and Signings

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:13 pm
by BillP.
ratonmono wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:41 pm Giving big money to just about any goalie these days is the height of stupidity. Lundqvist and Price might be the last of the 65+ starter days and Hank is clearly past that and has been for a minute. There just aren’t many standouts at the position any longer. The worst goalie in the league isn’t that far off from the top goalie. It makes sense given the evolution of the position to become more mechanical and less athletic.
Well said.