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Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:53 pm
by Beatoni12
NHLTIM wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:48 pm
Beatoni12 wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:45 pm
NHLTIM wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:43 pm WTF was Petro doing...mutherfucker!! We are getting outcoached big time and that was one of my worries about playing the Canucks.
You pick Petro to blame there? He was in deep and had two guys back on the line. Schenn and Gunnar let Horvat go, and then Binnner managed to keep his good saves list at zero.
you're goddamn right i'm picking Petro there...it's OT. Chief is also getting outcoached.
If you’re blaming Berube for getting out coached because the blues can’t kill a penalty all of a sudden or that he’s not teaching Binner how to stop pucks, than sure. We’ve been the better team 5 on 5 both games so far, so not sure what you think Green is coaching so well.

Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:54 pm
by stlblues1226
BluesSK wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:50 pm
BillP. wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:45 pm WTF is it with the big plays we’re giving up. And Binnington has just been average. Break in sure, but you got to come up big too. This fuckn hurts.
I think he's been pretty bad other than the first game against Colorado.

We're 0-6 in the bubble. It's time to take some gambles.
Allen in.
Kyrou in for Tarasenko
Bortz in for Faulk

That's where I'd start.

Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:56 pm
by Turk Sanderson
So the pizza wasn't the answer, eh?

Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:00 pm
by Beatoni12
stlblues1226 wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:54 pm
BluesSK wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:50 pm
BillP. wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:45 pm WTF is it with the big plays we’re giving up. And Binnington has just been average. Break in sure, but you got to come up big too. This fuckn hurts.
I think he's been pretty bad other than the first game against Colorado.

We're 0-6 in the bubble. It's time to take some gambles.
Allen in.
Kyrou in for Tarasenko
Bortz in for Faulk

That's where I'd start.
I think we have to hope Vladi gets going. I’d put Kyrou in for Brouwer, and drop Blais to the Sunny line.

I agree with your other two changes for sure though.

I’d kill to haveBarbie back to get that 4th like going again too.

Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:04 pm
by NHLTIM
Beatoni12 wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:53 pm
NHLTIM wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:48 pm
Beatoni12 wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:45 pm

You pick Petro to blame there? He was in deep and had two guys back on the line. Schenn and Gunnar let Horvat go, and then Binnner managed to keep his good saves list at zero.
you're goddamn right i'm picking Petro there...it's OT. Chief is also getting outcoached.
If you’re blaming Berube for getting out coached because the blues can’t kill a penalty all of a sudden or that he’s not teaching Binner how to stop pucks, than sure. We’ve been the better team 5 on 5 both games so far, so not sure what you think Green is coaching so well.
You might try giving the Canucks some credit. Coaching and goaltending was the biggest reason I said we needed face the Flames in round 1 and the Canucks have proved me right through the first 2 games. 5 on 5 hockey means squat when you're on the losing end of the scoreboard every game.
Also when I say coaching...it's not just about Travis Greene...its their whole staff and they figured something out on Binner for sure....if you don't believe me, just ask Bo Horvat.

Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:05 pm
by NHLTIM
Turk Sanderson wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:56 pm So the pizza wasn't the answer, eh?
Fucking Petro fucked the pizza thing up.....

Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:25 pm
by Dave's a mess
Well we got the one Cup. Thats all most of us were asking for, right?

Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:32 pm
by stlblues1226
Well, there is this to consider:



Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:34 pm
by Turk Sanderson
Dave's a mess wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:25 pm Well we got the one Cup. Thats all most of us were asking for, right?
To be honest, I'm having a bad time getting into this whole hockey in August thing.... we're losing an American like every 80 seconds with no end in sight... empty arenas... fake crowd noise... I don't know... it's all just to weird, right now.

Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:03 pm
by ratonmono
Turk Sanderson wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:34 pm
Dave's a mess wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:25 pm Well we got the one Cup. Thats all most of us were asking for, right?
To be honest, I'm having a bad time getting into this whole hockey in August thing.... we're losing an American like every 80 seconds with no end in sight... empty arenas... fake crowd noise... I don't know... it's all just to weird, right now.
I hear ya. It's not the same.

Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:06 pm
by ratonmono
Just saying I was against giving Binnington a long term huge money deal... Just hate giving big money to goalies when they're so erratic and here we have Binny being Jake circa 2017 bad since December.

Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:06 pm
by Beatoni12
NHLTIM wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:04 pm
Beatoni12 wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:53 pm
NHLTIM wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:48 pm

you're goddamn right i'm picking Petro there...it's OT. Chief is also getting outcoached.
If you’re blaming Berube for getting out coached because the blues can’t kill a penalty all of a sudden or that he’s not teaching Binner how to stop pucks, than sure. We’ve been the better team 5 on 5 both games so far, so not sure what you think Green is coaching so well.
You might try giving the Canucks some credit. Coaching and goaltending was the biggest reason I said we needed face the Flames in round 1 and the Canucks have proved me right through the first 2 games. 5 on 5 hockey means squat when you're on the losing end of the scoreboard every game.
Also when I say coaching...it's not just about Travis Greene...its their whole staff and they figured something out on Binner for sure....if you don't believe me, just ask Bo Horvat.
I think that’s giving coaches too much credit. I think Binner is just off. Not tracking any pucks well at all.

Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:09 pm
by barnburner
Turk Sanderson wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:34 pm
Dave's a mess wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:25 pm Well we got the one Cup. Thats all most of us were asking for, right?
To be honest, I'm having a bad time getting into this whole hockey in August thing.... we're losing an American like every 80 seconds with no end in sight... empty arenas... fake crowd noise... I don't know... it's all just to weird, right now.
I pretty much agree. No matter how much I try, it's not the same thing. To be honest, at least for me, the Cup doesn't carry the same importance it held prior to the pandemic.

Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:22 pm
by Turk Sanderson
barnburner wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:09 pm
Turk Sanderson wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:34 pm
Dave's a mess wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:25 pm Well we got the one Cup. Thats all most of us were asking for, right?
To be honest, I'm having a bad time getting into this whole hockey in August thing.... we're losing an American like every 80 seconds with no end in sight... empty arenas... fake crowd noise... I don't know... it's all just to weird, right now.
I pretty much agree. No matter how much I try, it's not the same thing. To be honest, at least for me, the Cup doesn't carry the same importance it held prior to the pandemic.
Totally agree Barn... Win or lose, it's going to be an asterisk cup for me.

Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:22 pm
by BluesSK
Turk Sanderson wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:22 pm
barnburner wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:09 pm
Turk Sanderson wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:34 pm

To be honest, I'm having a bad time getting into this whole hockey in August thing.... we're losing an American like every 80 seconds with no end in sight... empty arenas... fake crowd noise... I don't know... it's all just to weird, right now.
I pretty much agree. No matter how much I try, it's not the same thing. To be honest, at least for me, the Cup doesn't carry the same importance it held prior to the pandemic.
Totally agree Barn... Win or lose, it's going to be an asterisk cup for me.
If the Blues lose out I won't be watching any more hockey. I'm not watching any other games as it is.

Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:45 pm
by Robb_K
UMSLBlues12 wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:43 pm The Blues haven’t won a series they were down 0-2 in since 1972 or something
That doesn't sound right! I seem to remember them being down 2-0 and coming back to win a series some time within the last 5-6 years. Was it against The Stars? Or The Wild? I even seem to remember one against The Blackhawks (both within the last 10 years).

Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:19 am
by stlblues1226
Robb_K wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:45 pm
UMSLBlues12 wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:43 pm The Blues haven’t won a series they were down 0-2 in since 1972 or something
That doesn't sound right! I seem to remember them being down 2-0 and coming back to win a series some time within the last 5-6 years. Was it against The Stars? Or The Wild? I even seem to remember one against The Blackhawks (both within the last 10 years).
1971-1972 against the Minnesota Northstars.
I went through all their playoff runs and that's the most recent time it's happened for the Blues.

Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:23 am
by CaptSMRT
There isnt going to be any come back.

Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:25 am
by stlblues1226
BluesSK wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:22 pm
Turk Sanderson wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:22 pm
barnburner wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:09 pm

I pretty much agree. No matter how much I try, it's not the same thing. To be honest, at least for me, the Cup doesn't carry the same importance it held prior to the pandemic.
Totally agree Barn... Win or lose, it's going to be an asterisk cup for me.
If the Blues lose out I won't be watching any more hockey. I'm not watching any other games as it is.
Not me. I've watched at least part of almost every game since they started back up, even the "pre season" games. I just miss hockey so much and baseball just sucks, so I'm all in. My second favorite team is the Flyers, so I've got that to look forward to, I guess.

Not a fan of the NBA. I did enjoy the Premier League until it finished up. NASCAR now gives out participation trophies, so it's not really a sport any longer. Golf can hold my attention for about 5 minutes. Hockey is where it's at, sports wise.

Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:08 am
by BillP.
CaptSMRT wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:23 am There isnt going to be any come back.
I’m not so sure about that. I saw a lot of pissed off faces on the Blues bench after that goal. We need better goaltending though. There will be no comeback if all we get is average goaltending.

Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:17 am
by BillP.
NHLTIM wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:05 pm
Turk Sanderson wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:56 pm So the pizza wasn't the answer, eh?
Fucking Petro fucked the pizza thing up.....
He did. You’re right. I’m watching the game again and he just fell asleep watching the play. I appreciate his aggressiveness in attacking and going for that goal but not once did he look back to see where Gunnarson was positioned. Didn’t think about getting back to the point once during that sequence.

Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:25 am
by BillP.
Dave's a mess wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:49 pm
NHLTIM wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:45 pm
BluesSK wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:44 pm

He was in Lala land.

Binnington's been in Lala land the whole series.
he hasn't been good but credit the Canucks coaching staff.....they figured something out in regards to JB50
The thing they seem to have figured out is "shoot it on net".
:lol:

I would seriously consider putting Allen in as a starter. Let Binner stew and come back in a relief roll. Maybe that will ignite him. Allen looked good against Dallas. WTF, we need to do something. This was the game Binner had to show up and he didn’t. Not sure if we can expect anything different from him in game 3. Another performance like that in net and we’re done.

Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:00 am
by JMC-STL
NHLTIM wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:05 pm
Turk Sanderson wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:56 pmSo the pizza wasn't the answer, eh?
Fucking Petro fucked the pizza thing up.....
At least TIM stepped up. Where were Turk and his Almighty Smoker?! :x

Petro owes TIM and his family Pirrone's pizza for life! And Binner must provide the cannelloni bites. :idea:

Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:17 am
by JMC-STL
Turk Sanderson wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:22 pm
barnburner wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:09 pm
Turk Sanderson wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:34 pmTo be honest, I'm having a bad time getting into this whole hockey in August thing.... we're losing an American like every 80 seconds with no end in sight... empty arenas... fake crowd noise... I don't know... it's all just to weird, right now.
I pretty much agree. No matter how much I try, it's not the same thing. To be honest, at least for me, the Cup doesn't carry the same importance it held prior to the pandemic.
Totally agree Barn... Win or lose, it's going to be an asterisk cup for me.
And the Blues will be sitting on their asterisks, in a time-honored tradition.

Re: GDT: Game 2: St Louis Blues vs Vancouver - 5:30 - 8/14 - TV:NHL/FSMW

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:16 am
by T.C.
NHLTIM wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:15 pm
UMSLBlues12 wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:12 pm
NHLTIM wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:10 pm 0EC0B0E2-E691-46AA-83E3-6E9F44AB424B.jpeg
Perrone’s?
Pirrones