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Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:56 am
by BillP.
Matangama wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:36 am
barnburner wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:08 am
BillP. wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:32 am Maroon paying dividends for Tampa in playoffs. Big factor in OT goal tonight for Lightning, who are 4-0 in OT during playoffs.
Yep. Hard to argue with Army's decisions, but I didnt like the decision to not resign Maroon.
I said it when they signed him....Maroon is exactly what Tampa needed, especially after last year’s disaster in the playoffs. Hey, if he wins a Cup in Tampa, maybe he is back here next season to finish his career. If Steen had decided to retire, brining Maroon back would be more likely, but Steen says he’s coming back.
Steen's overpaid now, but he is a fantastic 4th liner I'll say that...................yeah, Maroon was so cheap to resign too. I'm guessing Army anticipated Kostin playing this year. I guess if Army had known Kostin wasn't in Berube's plans that he would of brought back Maroon. Can't see how the Blues deny Kostin a roster spot next year, if they do that, they're really fuck'n with the kid.

Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:55 am
by barnburner
Matangama wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:36 am
barnburner wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:08 am
BillP. wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:32 am Maroon paying dividends for Tampa in playoffs. Big factor in OT goal tonight for Lightning, who are 4-0 in OT during playoffs.
Yep. Hard to argue with Army's decisions, but I didnt like the decision to not resign Maroon.
I said it when they signed him....Maroon is exactly what Tampa needed, especially after last year’s disaster in the playoffs. Hey, if he wins a Cup in Tampa, maybe he is back here next season to finish his career. If Steen had decided to retire, brining Maroon back would be more likely, but Steen says he’s coming back.
No doubt about it. Maroon was a perfect fit for that extremely talented finesse team.

Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:30 am
by Dave's a mess
barnburner wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:55 am
Matangama wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:36 am
barnburner wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:08 am

Yep. Hard to argue with Army's decisions, but I didnt like the decision to not resign Maroon.
I said it when they signed him....Maroon is exactly what Tampa needed, especially after last year’s disaster in the playoffs. Hey, if he wins a Cup in Tampa, maybe he is back here next season to finish his career. If Steen had decided to retire, brining Maroon back would be more likely, but Steen says he’s coming back.
No doubt about it. Maroon was a perfect fit for that extremely talented finesse team.
Yes. I think he's a better fit in Tampa than STL at the moment. As you alluded to, he's a change of pace there providing an element they don't have. They're also better suited to cover for his lack of speed. He obviously fit here as well, but I think it's a better match in Tampa.

Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:08 pm
by Dave's a mess
It appears the Flyers have finally arrived in the second round. Up 3-0 after 1 in a welcome return to afternoon hockey.

Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:38 pm
by NHLTIM
Good to see the Flyers rebound ..hopefully the can hold on to that 3-1 lead now

Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:21 pm
by Matangama
NHLTIM wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:38 pm Good to see the Flyers rebound ..hopefully the can hold on to that 3-1 lead now
Man, that Anthony Beauvillier is a nice player!

Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:38 pm
by NHLTIM
Matangama wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:21 pm
NHLTIM wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:38 pm Good to see the Flyers rebound ..hopefully the can hold on to that 3-1 lead now
Man, that Anthony Beauvillier is a nice player!
Great player and now a must win OT for the Flyers or they are done. A loss here would be too much to come back from.

Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:38 pm
by Dave's a mess
NHLTIM wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:38 pm Good to see the Flyers rebound ..hopefully the can hold on to that 3-1 lead now
Ruh-Roh, heading to OT!

Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:45 pm
by NHLTIM
Here we go....I hate this bullshit.


Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:36 pm
by Dave's a mess
Unofficially but officially no games tonight:

Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:05 pm
by Matangama
Fuck the NHL if they do this. Nope, I’m not racist.....just keep politics out of my fucking sports.

How about compromise - let the NHL keep playing but shut down baseball for a month.

Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:07 pm
by NHLTIM
Matangama wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:05 pm Fuck the NHL if they do this. Nope, I’m not racist.....just keep politics out of my fucking sports.

How about compromise - let the NHL keep playing but shut down baseball for a month.
I mean the guy was a fucking criminal. Shouldn’t there be someone in the league office that steps up and says...”you know Gary...this guy was a legit criminal”
It’s unbelievable that they pander to this bullshit.

Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:17 pm
by Dread_Pirate_Westley
A general strike is as American as apple pie. Sorry some of you won't get to watch hockey tonight. Maybe go outside or spend time with your loved ones. We wanted peaceful protest, right? Doesn't get more peaceful than a walk out.

Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:19 pm
by NHLTIM
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:17 pm A general strike is as American as apple pie. Sorry some of you won't get to watch hockey tonight. Maybe go outside or spend time with your loved ones. We wanted peaceful protest, right? Doesn't get more peaceful than a walk out.
A peaceful protest for a criminal with a sexual assault on his record. Does that make sense to you ?

Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:26 pm
by ratonmono
NHLTIM wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:19 pm
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:17 pm A general strike is as American as apple pie. Sorry some of you won't get to watch hockey tonight. Maybe go outside or spend time with your loved ones. We wanted peaceful protest, right? Doesn't get more peaceful than a walk out.
A peaceful protest for a criminal with a sexual assault on his record. Does that make sense to you ?
Shooting a guy 7 times in the back is OK because he previously committed crimes? How does that make sense to you?

Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:32 pm
by Matangama
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:17 pm A general strike is as American as apple pie. Sorry some of you won't get to watch hockey tonight. Maybe go outside or spend time with your loved ones. We wanted peaceful protest, right? Doesn't get more peaceful than a walk out.
Dread, no argument with your comments, in general.......but this has absolutely nothing to do with the NHL. Are professional sports going to shut down (or strike/walk out in your words) every time something bad happens? Did the NHL shut down when that 5-year old kid got shot in the head - executed - while riding his bike in front of his house a couple of weeks ago? Was that not “as bad” as what happened to Jacob Blake?

Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:36 pm
by NHLTIM
ratonmono wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:26 pm
NHLTIM wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:19 pm
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:17 pm A general strike is as American as apple pie. Sorry some of you won't get to watch hockey tonight. Maybe go outside or spend time with your loved ones. We wanted peaceful protest, right? Doesn't get more peaceful than a walk out.
A peaceful protest for a criminal with a sexual assault on his record. Does that make sense to you ?
Shooting a guy 7 times in the back is OK because he previously committed crimes? How does that make sense to you?
They didn’t shoot him in the back for prior crimes. They tased him and that didn’t stop him. He didn’t listen to their commands to stop. He entered his vehicle in which he had a knife. At that point he’s a threat.
Did they have to shoot him 7 times...don’t know and don’t really care.

Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:43 pm
by Dread_Pirate_Westley
Matangama wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:32 pm
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:17 pm A general strike is as American as apple pie. Sorry some of you won't get to watch hockey tonight. Maybe go outside or spend time with your loved ones. We wanted peaceful protest, right? Doesn't get more peaceful than a walk out.
Dread, no argument with your comments, in general.......but this has absolutely nothing to do with the NHL. Are professional sports going to shut down (or strike/walk out in your words) every time something bad happens? Did the NHL shut down when that 5-year old kid got shot in the head - executed - while riding his bike in front of his house a couple of weeks ago? Was that not “as bad” as what happened to Jacob Blake?
Of course it has nothing to do with the NHL itself. They aren't protesting the NHL by walking out.

The person who shot the 5 year old is a piece of shit and is rightfully in jail being charged and will die in prison. That's called justice.

The police who broke into Breonna Taylor's home and murdered her aren't in jail and aren't charged. That is called injustice.

It's not simply the violent acts people are fed up with, it's the lack of justice when violent acts are committed. People who commit murder should be charged as such. We agree on that right? This has people feeling frustrated to the point where they are trying anything to be heard.

Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:45 pm
by Dave's a mess
NHLTIM wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:36 pm
ratonmono wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:26 pm
NHLTIM wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:19 pm

A peaceful protest for a criminal with a sexual assault on his record. Does that make sense to you ?
Shooting a guy 7 times in the back is OK because he previously committed crimes? How does that make sense to you?
They didn’t shoot him in the back for prior crimes. They tased him and that didn’t stop him. He didn’t listen to their commands to stop. He entered his vehicle in which he had a knife. At that point he’s a threat.
Did they have to shoot him 7 times...don’t know and don’t really care.
I think that's the point. The players want you to care, because they do. If this were a one off incident there wouldn't be protests anywhere, but it's far from an isolated incident.

Now to your original point, it's entirely possible that the League and PA are pandering. They have egg on their face for being the only League to not sit out in some capacity last night. It's also entirely possible they're not and they wanted to draw attention to what they feel is a societal problem.

Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:50 pm
by Dread_Pirate_Westley
It's a bogus hockey tournament that is nothing more than a money grab for the league. You'll be okay if you don't get to watch it for a couple days, I promise.

Maybe it's good that people don't have it as a "distraction" for those couple days because they need to be made uncomfortable.

Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:56 pm
by NHLTIM
Dave's a mess wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:45 pm
NHLTIM wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:36 pm
ratonmono wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:26 pm

Shooting a guy 7 times in the back is OK because he previously committed crimes? How does that make sense to you?
They didn’t shoot him in the back for prior crimes. They tased him and that didn’t stop him. He didn’t listen to their commands to stop. He entered his vehicle in which he had a knife. At that point he’s a threat.
Did they have to shoot him 7 times...don’t know and don’t really care.
I think that's the point. The players want you to care, because they do. If this were a one off incident there wouldn't be protests anywhere, but it's far from an isolated incident.

Now to your original point, it's entirely possible that the League and PA are pandering. They have egg on their face for being the only League to not sit out in some capacity last night. It's also entirely possible they're not and they wanted to draw attention to what they feel is a societal problem.
So let people do what they want to do...no rules in society whatsoever. If the cop yells stop....just ignore it and get in your car and do you. Got it....
The guy is a criminal and the NHL is in support of him and nobody even questions it. It’s mind boggling.

Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:59 pm
by NHLTIM
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:50 pm It's a bogus hockey tournament that is nothing more than a money grab for the league. You'll be okay if you don't get to watch it for a couple days, I promise.

Maybe it's good that people don't have it as a "distraction" for those couple days because they need to be made uncomfortable.
I don’t care about the actual hockey games at all. The guy is a convicted criminal with a sex assault charge. The NHL is supporting that. That’s what’s fucked up

Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 3:01 pm
by Dave's a mess
NHLTIM wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:56 pm
Dave's a mess wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:45 pm
NHLTIM wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:36 pm

They didn’t shoot him in the back for prior crimes. They tased him and that didn’t stop him. He didn’t listen to their commands to stop. He entered his vehicle in which he had a knife. At that point he’s a threat.
Did they have to shoot him 7 times...don’t know and don’t really care.
I think that's the point. The players want you to care, because they do. If this were a one off incident there wouldn't be protests anywhere, but it's far from an isolated incident.

Now to your original point, it's entirely possible that the League and PA are pandering. They have egg on their face for being the only League to not sit out in some capacity last night. It's also entirely possible they're not and they wanted to draw attention to what they feel is a societal problem.
So let people do what they want to do...no rules in society whatsoever. If the cop yells stop....just ignore it and get in your car and do you. Got it....
The guy is a criminal and the NHL is in support of him and nobody even questions it. It’s mind boggling.
No, I think the protest centers around the belief that one of the rules in society should be don't shoot people in the back as they slowly walk away from you if you can avoid it.

Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 3:38 pm
by MissouriMook
NHLTIM wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:59 pm
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:50 pm It's a bogus hockey tournament that is nothing more than a money grab for the league. You'll be okay if you don't get to watch it for a couple days, I promise.

Maybe it's good that people don't have it as a "distraction" for those couple days because they need to be made uncomfortable.
I don’t care about the actual hockey games at all. The guy is a convicted criminal with a sex assault charge. The NHL is supporting that. That’s what’s fucked up
Tim, have you actually seen the video? Because if you haven't, this would be a good opportunity to do so. If you can watch that video and think that there is any way possible that this was justified, regardless of what his prior record contains, you should probably spend some time alone trying to figure out why you're OK with this. If you can't figure out what's wrong with what happened there, there is definitely something wrong with you.

Re: Playoff games [other teams]

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 3:49 pm
by CaptSMRT
Good on the NHL for trying to be progressive. What I find disturbing is the number of people who got really nasty that the NHL did not react to this at the speed of light, as if they were supposed to be in lock step with NBA players at a moments notice, and now that they are doing something you get Matt Dumba and Evander Kane show boating as if they have been burdened by playing professional hockey. One thing is for certain...the engineers of the racial divide in America are sitting back and loving every minute of this. The guy who owns the private prison is laughing all the way to the bank while everyone pulls each others hair out.