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Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:44 pm
by Dread_Pirate_Westley
4 years 13.1. He made a great impression in his short time here. Habs get a 4th round pick from the Blues because of the signing.

Re: Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:58 pm
by UMSLBlues12
Basically re-signed for exactly what JBo was making this past year. So that’s effectively JBos replacement on the left side for the next 4 years.

Re: Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:02 pm
by UMSLBlues12
Makes me wonder what Dunn’s future here is though. Is he just a third pairing guy? Scandella seems like the second pairing guy now. Couldn’t Perunovich do what Dunn does and potentially more on the third pair? Do we look to get something for Dunn?

Re: Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:10 pm
by NHLTIM
UMSLBlues12 wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:02 pm Makes me wonder what Dunn’s future here is though. Is he just a third pairing guy? Scandella seems like the second pairing guy now. Couldn’t Perunovich do what Dunn does and potentially more on the third pair? Do we look to get something for Dunn?
Perunovich plays the right side. I assume the Blues see him on the right side but who knows.

Re: Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:11 pm
by Dread_Pirate_Westley
UMSLBlues12 wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:02 pm Makes me wonder what Dunn’s future here is though. Is he just a third pairing guy? Scandella seems like the second pairing guy now. Couldn’t Perunovich do what Dunn does and potentially more on the third pair? Do we look to get something for Dunn?
Scandella - Petro
Perunovich - Parayako
Dunn - Faulk

Re: Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:13 pm
by NHLTIM
I think Dunn’s future is more solid than ever. He hasn’t even played 3 full years yet. He’s still a couple of years away from his best years

Re: Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:21 pm
by NHLTIM
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:11 pm
UMSLBlues12 wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:02 pm Makes me wonder what Dunn’s future here is though. Is he just a third pairing guy? Scandella seems like the second pairing guy now. Couldn’t Perunovich do what Dunn does and potentially more on the third pair? Do we look to get something for Dunn?
Scandella - Petro
Perunovich - Parayako
Dunn - Faulk
Scandella - Parayko
Dunn- Faulk
Mikkola - Perunovich
Gunner

Re: Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:24 pm
by Dave's a mess
Fascinating.

Re: Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:27 pm
by Dread_Pirate_Westley
NHLTIM wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:21 pm
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:11 pm
UMSLBlues12 wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:02 pm Makes me wonder what Dunn’s future here is though. Is he just a third pairing guy? Scandella seems like the second pairing guy now. Couldn’t Perunovich do what Dunn does and potentially more on the third pair? Do we look to get something for Dunn?
Scandella - Petro
Perunovich - Parayako
Dunn - Faulk
Scandella - Parayko
Dunn- Faulk
Mikkola - Perunovich
Gunner
Mines better :D

Re: Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:34 pm
by Matangama
Solid contract for the Blues......this guy looked like he was born to play here. Maybe because of the uncertainty, they get him to sign at a nice discount to his current contract. Good work, Army!

Re: Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:25 pm
by JMC-STL
Are these guys signing contracts based on per-game-played payments now? NHL has a 41-game 2020-21 season, Scandella is owed half his annual? Can he collect unemployment for the other half?

Re: Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:29 pm
by Turk Sanderson
JMC-STL wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:25 pm Are these guys signing contracts based on per-game-played payments now? NHL has a 41-game 2020-21 season, Scandella is owed half his annual? Can he collect unemployment for the other half?
It's all Monopoly Money by the time this pandemic is over with anyway. A loaf of bread will be like $10, 000.

Re: Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:01 pm
by barnburner
I'm really happy with this signing. He stepped right in and played really well. He and Colt 55 made a great pairing.
Army is the man!

Re: Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:10 pm
by BillP.
Dave's a mess wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:24 pm Fascinating.
Okay Spock :)

Re: Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:15 pm
by BillP.
I first heard 4 years at 4 million per year but 3 and change is a winner for me. Army with a couple great value deals in Blais and Scandella today.

Re: Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:46 am
by JMC-STL
Turk Sanderson wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:29 pm
JMC-STL wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:25 pmAre these guys signing contracts based on per-game-played payments now? NHL has a 41-game 2020-21 season, Scandella is owed half his annual? Can he collect unemployment for the other half?
It's all Monopoly Money by the time this pandemic is over with anyway. A loaf of bread will be like $10, 000.
I've already got a luxury hotel/condo/resort complex with a multi-sheet ice complex & state-of-the-art training facilities covering the entire Boardwalk property. The NHL will carve a path to my door for this bastardization of a 2020 playoffs. So I'm good, but I was concerned for the NHLPA and its vulnerable members.

Re: Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:45 am
by Dave's a mess
BillP. wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:10 pm
Dave's a mess wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:24 pm Fascinating.
Okay Spock :)
It's very rare that someone compares me with a logical thinker.

Re: Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:02 pm
by Robb_K
NHLTIM wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:21 pm
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:11 pm
UMSLBlues12 wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:02 pm Makes me wonder what Dunn’s future here is though. Is he just a third pairing guy? Scandella seems like the second pairing guy now. Couldn’t Perunovich do what Dunn does and potentially more on the third pair? Do we look to get something for Dunn?
Scandella - Petro
Perunovich - Parayako
Dunn - Faulk
Scandella - Parayko
Dunn- Faulk
Mikkola - Perunovich
Gunner
A Dunn and Faulk pairing on the 3rd shift is bad enough. Making that The 2nd shift would give me bleeding ulcers and a heart condition!!! WHO would play defence??? Pietrangelo WILL be around. Faulk may, or may not. 2 or 3 of Gunnarsson, Steen, Allen. and Bozak may not, based on need to clear space for Pietrangelo and Dunn. I'm confident that Pietrangelo will return. I think that Allen WILL definitely and Bozak likely be gone. If not, certainly one of the others will. But Dunn and Faulk together on a shift, would be a defensive disaster.

Re: Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:40 pm
by NHLTIM
Robb_K wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:02 pm
NHLTIM wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:21 pm
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:11 pm

Scandella - Petro
Perunovich - Parayako
Dunn - Faulk
Scandella - Parayko
Dunn- Faulk
Mikkola - Perunovich
Gunner
A Dunn and Faulk pairing on the 3rd shift is bad enough. Making that The 2nd shift would give me bleeding ulcers and a heart condition!!! WHO would play defence??? Pietrangelo WILL be around. Faulk may, or may not. 2 or 3 of Gunnarsson, Steen, Allen. and Bozak may not, based on need to clear space for Pietrangelo and Dunn. I'm confident that Pietrangelo will return. I think that Allen WILL definitely and Bozak likely be gone. If not, certainly one of the others will. But Dunn and Faulk together on a shift, would be a defensive disaster.
Oh I don’t care how you line them up...that’s what we’re looking at if Petro leaves.
Would you rather have Dunn paired with Perunovich who has no experience ? What if Mikkola takes a step back next season?
Nothing wrong with Dunn...he’s pretty damn good and he’s only getting better.

Re: Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:52 pm
by Robb_K
NHLTIM wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:40 pm
Robb_K wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:02 pm
NHLTIM wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:21 pm

Scandella - Parayko
Dunn- Faulk
Mikkola - Perunovich
Gunner
A Dunn and Faulk pairing on the 3rd shift is bad enough. Making that The 2nd shift would give me bleeding ulcers and a heart condition!!! WHO would play defence??? Pietrangelo WILL be around. Faulk may, or may not. 2 or 3 of Gunnarsson, Steen, Allen. and Bozak may not, based on need to clear space for Pietrangelo and Dunn. I'm confident that Pietrangelo will return. I think that Allen WILL definitely and Bozak likely be gone. If not, certainly one of the others will. But Dunn and Faulk together on a shift, would be a defensive disaster.
Oh I don’t care how you line them up...that’s what we’re looking at if Petro leaves.
Would you rather have Dunn paired with Perunovich who has no experience ? What if Mikkola takes a step back next season?
Nothing wrong with Dunn...he’s pretty damn good and he’s only getting better.
Dunn and Perunovich would be even worse! But I think Pietrangelo isn't going to be so money-hungry that he'll leave. I'm sure he'll want to stay and the 2 parties will be able to reach an agreement, and Allen is again a desirable commodity for, at least a couple teams, and he'll be gone, and one of Steen, Bozak, or Gunnarsson will also be gone. I'm not worried that Scandella's and Blais signings are hurting the chances of Pietrangelo returning. I still think, also, if Pietrangelo returns, Faulk may be going to Seattle in The Expansion Draft the year after, in a deal giving Seattle an incentive smaller than a lot of people think may be required, and Steen will be off the books by then (IF he wasn't shed the year before. And Thomas, and Kyrou will be producing nicely, and The Blues will have some cap room for emergencies, as well as their core intact. It's nice to have Bozak and Gunnarsson as depth, but I don't worry about them moving on. I hope Husso will be able to play adequately in The NHL even next season, so the loss of Allen won't be a negative factor.

Re: Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:10 am
by NHLTIM
Robb_K wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:52 pm
NHLTIM wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:40 pm
Robb_K wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:02 pm
A Dunn and Faulk pairing on the 3rd shift is bad enough. Making that The 2nd shift would give me bleeding ulcers and a heart condition!!! WHO would play defence??? Pietrangelo WILL be around. Faulk may, or may not. 2 or 3 of Gunnarsson, Steen, Allen. and Bozak may not, based on need to clear space for Pietrangelo and Dunn. I'm confident that Pietrangelo will return. I think that Allen WILL definitely and Bozak likely be gone. If not, certainly one of the others will. But Dunn and Faulk together on a shift, would be a defensive disaster.
Oh I don’t care how you line them up...that’s what we’re looking at if Petro leaves.
Would you rather have Dunn paired with Perunovich who has no experience ? What if Mikkola takes a step back next season?
Nothing wrong with Dunn...he’s pretty damn good and he’s only getting better.
Dunn and Perunovich would be even worse! But I think Pietrangelo isn't going to be so money-hungry that he'll leave. I'm sure he'll want to stay and the 2 parties will be able to reach an agreement, and Allen is again a desirable commodity for, at least a couple teams, and he'll be gone, and one of Steen, Bozak, or Gunnarsson will also be gone. I'm not worried that Scandella's and Blais signings are hurting the chances of Pietrangelo returning. I still think, also, if Pietrangelo returns, Faulk may be going to Seattle in The Expansion Draft the year after, in a deal giving Seattle an incentive smaller than a lot of people think may be required, and Steen will be off the books by then (IF he wasn't shed the year before. And Thomas, and Kyrou will be producing nicely, and The Blues will have some cap room for emergencies, as well as their core intact. It's nice to have Bozak and Gunnarsson as depth, but I don't worry about them moving on. I hope Husso will be able to play adequately in The NHL even next season, so the loss of Allen won't be a negative factor.
I still think you are downplaying how good Vince Dunn has been. He’s one of the best young dmen in the NHL and his advanced stats show it. He’s a huge part of the Blues plans going forward.

Re: Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:10 am
by Matangama
I’ll add my 2 cents on Dunn........one of the things I noticed when I rewatched the playoff games during the Cup run was how poised Dunn was. He never seems to panic, he’s aggressive, and he plays with fire. Yeah, he still makes mistakes defensively, but he is a character player and I’d be really disappointed if he doesn’t play for the Blues for a long time.

Re: Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:19 am
by BluesSK
I love Dunn on the Blues. He's a baby faced assassin.

Re: Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:19 pm
by Dave's a mess
We have a lot of good D, and Dunn is one of them. They won't all be around forever, but Army isn't going to like the idea of losing Dunn.

Re: Blues sign Scandella 4 years

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:10 pm
by barnburner
Matangama wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:10 am I’ll add my 2 cents on Dunn........one of the things I noticed when I rewatched the playoff games during the Cup run was how poised Dunn was. He never seems to panic, he’s aggressive, and he plays with fire. Yeah, he still makes mistakes defensively, but he is a character player and I’d be really disappointed if he doesn’t play for the Blues for a long time.
Same here. I've been watching some of the Cup replays, and his poise was quite noticeable.