NHL Overtime. Too many ch?

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Not sure if this normal or not. Also, trying to get some opinions/thoughts as to how much overtime is too just ch.

So far, 190 games played, 45 have gone to overtime (I think my math is right). About 25% seems like a lot of loser points being obtained.

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Everyone bitches about the "loser point" but think of it this way... before this 3-on-3/shootout format, when both teams were tied after 60 mins, each team got a point and it was called a tie. Now it is still the same, but one team gets an extra point for winning the circus that is the 3-on-3/shootout. I almost have a bigger problem with the way the "winner point" is awarded than the losing team getting a point for battling to a tie after 60 minutes.
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MattyIce wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:26 amEveryone bitches about the "loser point" but think of it this way... before this 3-on-3/shootout format, when both teams were tied after 60 mins, each team got a point and it was called a tie. Now it is still the same, but one team gets an extra point for winning the circus that is the 3-on-3/shootout. I almost have a bigger problem with the way the "winner point" is awarded than the losing team getting a point for battling to a tie after 60 minutes.
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Not sure why it even matters that much? The rules have been the rules for a while; all fans, teams, coaches, and managers/ownership know the rules. Just seems like some folks like to bitch about something that isn't even an issue. Because once/if it is changed, again, then someone will have a problem with the 'new format'. an endless loop of whining.

/rhetorical whine ;)
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MattyIce wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:26 am Everyone bitches about the "loser point" but think of it this way... before this 3-on-3/shootout format, when both teams were tied after 60 mins, each team got a point and it was called a tie. Now it is still the same, but one team gets an extra point for winning the circus that is the 3-on-3/shootout. I almost have a bigger problem with the way the "winner point" is awarded than the losing team getting a point for battling to a tie after 60 minutes.
They should award a regulation win 3 points and have a 3-2-1 point system, but then that would widen the gap between teams and ruin wild card hopes. So it is what it is. But in fairness, people pay a lot of money to go to these games, so seeing some wide open hockey in OT and a possible shootout is good for the paying customers. So in that regard, I think what they got going is fine.

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The current system is dumb, and only in place to give a false sense of parity by inflating overall point totals. In reality in just makes it harder for teams to make up ground since the teams ahead of them are still getting points for losses half the time. I like a 3-2-1 system because every game is worth the same amount of points. It wouldn't make it any harder to make up ground, just would cause teams to recalibrate what being X points back in the standings really means. Right now teams are being artificially propped up by loser points. With a 3-2-1 system it you get exactly what you earn. You can still keep your 3 on 3 OT, I doubt that ever changes.
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bradleygt89 wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:17 am Not sure why it even matters that much? The rules have been the rules for a while; all fans, teams, coaches, and managers/ownership know the rules. Just seems like some folks like to bitch about something that isn't even an issue. Because once/if it is changed, again, then someone will have a problem with the 'new format'. an endless loop of whining.

/rhetorical whine ;)
So because something won't be 100% received we should never look at improving, adjusting, or just flat out changing it? Doesn't seem like very progressive thinking.
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There ain’t nothing good about a shootout...it’s the dumbest thing the NHL has ever done. How many sports change their rules between the regular season and the post season?
3 on 3 which is just as stupid and then a dumb shootout but in the playoffs ....no we can’t have that so let’s make it 5 on 5 til somebody scores.
Ridiculous bullshit....:by the way I’ve already had two Starbucks Triple Shots today so I’m a tad bit fired up.
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NHLTIM wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:35 am There ain’t nothing good about a shootout...it’s the dumbest thing the NHL has ever done. How many sports change their rules between the regular season and the post season?
3 on 3 which is just as stupid and then a dumb shootout but in the playoffs ....no we can’t have that so let’s make it 5 on 5 til somebody scores.
Ridiculous bullshit....:by the way I’ve already had two Starbucks Triple Shots today so I’m a tad bit fired up.
That's exactly my thinking... the problem isn't the "loser point." If anything, that point is the one that was earned. The way the "winner's point" is awarded is the problem.
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Matangama wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:26 am
JMC-STL wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:18 am And what the hell is/are "Too many ch?" - Does the OP work & drink with you, Matty?
That has me stumped as well. I’m guzzling coffee like crazy to try and get the brain firing, but “ch” might just be a “bridge too far” for me this morning!
CH is the abbreviation for switzerland. overtime is indeed too many switzerland.

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T.C. wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:07 am
Matangama wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:26 am
JMC-STL wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:18 am And what the hell is/are "Too many ch?" - Does the OP work & drink with you, Matty?
That has me stumped as well. I’m guzzling coffee like crazy to try and get the brain firing, but “ch” might just be a “bridge too far” for me this morning!
CH is the abbreviation for switzerland. overtime is indeed too many switzerland.
OP hates watching Roman Josi play 3 on 3 I guess. Sure, I don't like it when Nashville earns at least a point, but Josi's a pretty smooth skater, so I don't mind.
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Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:33 am
bradleygt89 wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:17 am Not sure why it even matters that much? The rules have been the rules for a while; all fans, teams, coaches, and managers/ownership know the rules. Just seems like some folks like to bitch about something that isn't even an issue. Because once/if it is changed, again, then someone will have a problem with the 'new format'. an endless loop of whining.

/rhetorical whine ;)
So because something won't be 100% received we should never look at improving, adjusting, or just flat out changing it? Doesn't seem like very progressive thinking.
I just felt like being opposite today. But honestly, it doesn't bother me and I actually like the current setup, but I also like it as 5 vs 5 in the playoffs. It means something more then. I already told you all that I was weird ;)

And for the record, if and when the NHL does change it up again, because that is the thing to do in professional sports, I'll be a fan of that too. I just don't care that much personally one way or the other except I like to watch OT.
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Play the 3 on 3...fine......but if nobody wins then just let it end in a tie with both teams get a point.
I hate that shootout...it has nothing to do with NHL hockey . You shouldn’t get an extra point in a skills competition.
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Dave's a mess wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:37 am
T.C. wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:07 am
Matangama wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:26 amThat has me stumped as well. I’m guzzling coffee like crazy to try and get the brain firing, but “ch” might just be a “bridge too far” for me this morning!
CH is the abbreviation for switzerland. overtime is indeed too many switzerland.
OP hates watching Roman Josi play 3 on 3 I guess. Sure, I don't like it when Nashville earns at least a point, but Josi's a pretty smooth skater, so I don't mind.
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BillP. wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:58 pm Could just play 3 on 3 till someone scores period. That has to give at some point. Going past the 10 minute mark would be a rarity IMO
True but that format just takes away from the game itself. The bigger issue is the way the 3 on 3 is played....they need to make some changes . The first thing should be that if you have the puck in the offensive zone....you need to keep it in their until the defending team gets the puck or clears it. I absolutely hate when a player skates back out of the zone to regroup. That should be an automatic penalty for delay of game.
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NHLTIM wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:20 pm
BillP. wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:58 pm Could just play 3 on 3 till someone scores period. That has to give at some point. Going past the 10 minute mark would be a rarity IMO
True but that format just takes away from the game itself. The bigger issue is the way the 3 on 3 is played....they need to make some changes . The first thing should be that if you have the puck in the offensive zone....you need to keep it in their until the defending team gets the puck or clears it. I absolutely hate when a player skates back out of the zone to regroup. That should be an automatic penalty for delay of game.
Yes. I absolutely agree with this.

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I could agree with this, but just imagine how many delays we’d have for all the ‘close call’ reviews of that reverse offside call. I get what your saying though, but I’d rather make it like basketball and you only get say ten seconds to bring the puck into the offensive zone.
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