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1077Kostin or Kyrou perhaps?Matangama wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:30 pm Dave, I’m not a prospect guy like Tim or others, but Madden is pretty darn good prospect. He was a 3rd round pick, but seems to have risen in the Vancouver prospect rankings since then. Not sure who to compare him to for the Blues.
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1078Great deal for Vancouver. Toffoli is happy as he gets to stay out west which was key for him. Package sounds about right. Madden is an ok prospect....he’s a role player in the NHL....nothing more. Nice to see the Canucks as buyers at the deadline for a change.
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1079From The Hockey Writers (Jan 20)Matangama wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:30 pm Dave, I’m not a prospect guy like Tim or others, but Madden is pretty darn good prospect. He was a 3rd round pick, but seems to have risen in the Vancouver prospect rankings since then. Not sure who to compare him to for the Blues.
From Kevin Woolery NHL.com ( preseason)3. Tyler Madden (C)
Acquired: Third Round (68th overall), 2018 NHL Draft
2019-20 Team: North Eastern University Huskies (H-East)
2019-20 Stats: 22 GP – 16 G – 15 A – 31 PTS
To say that Tyler Madden’s season has been solid so far would be an understatement. All he has done is lead his team in scoring, set a new career-high in points with 31 and be a candidate for the Hobey Baker award. Just like many of the prospects on this list, he is exceeding expectations and showing us why draft position rarely matters in this sport.
Madden has filled in nicely for Adam Gaudette in the top-line center role for the Huskies. In the past, he was known more for his playmaking abilities, this season he has become more of a well-rounded centerman by adding goal scoring to his resume. His 16 goals are already four more than his freshman campaign and the season isn’t even over yet. That total also has him tied for second in the entire NCAA over many other first-round picks.
From Corey Pronman at the Athletic ( today)
Tyler Madden, C, Los Angeles (traded from Canucks on Feb. 17)
Madden was No. 40 on my midseason prospect ranking, which would make him Los Angeles’ No. 5 ranked prospect right now, albeit in a very deep pool at the top. Madden is a player with elite skill. His 1-on-1 ability is among the very best drafted prospects outside the NHL. And he is a very smart two-way center. He makes a lot of high-end plays and is a solid defensive center because of how smart he is and his quality on-ice work ethic. He does everything for Northeastern, a top 10 team, regularly logging massive minutes this season. He has all the hockey abilities, but he’s a slight player with average feet. Even with his physical limitations, I think he will become a good NHL player once he eventually fills out with the potential to be a No. 2 center in the NHL. Madden was injured in a recent game, but it’s not believed to be a serious long-term injury.
He sounds like the most important part of the deal, according to these guys.
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1080He’s not going to replicate his college game at the NHL level . He’s likely going to be 3rd liner with special teams skills. He’s not going to be as good as his dad was but he will find a role for sure.usmcaaron wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:19 pmFrom The Hockey Writers (Jan 20)Matangama wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:30 pm Dave, I’m not a prospect guy like Tim or others, but Madden is pretty darn good prospect. He was a 3rd round pick, but seems to have risen in the Vancouver prospect rankings since then. Not sure who to compare him to for the Blues.
From Kevin Woolery NHL.com ( preseason)3. Tyler Madden (C)
Acquired: Third Round (68th overall), 2018 NHL Draft
2019-20 Team: North Eastern University Huskies (H-East)
2019-20 Stats: 22 GP – 16 G – 15 A – 31 PTS
To say that Tyler Madden’s season has been solid so far would be an understatement. All he has done is lead his team in scoring, set a new career-high in points with 31 and be a candidate for the Hobey Baker award. Just like many of the prospects on this list, he is exceeding expectations and showing us why draft position rarely matters in this sport.
Madden has filled in nicely for Adam Gaudette in the top-line center role for the Huskies. In the past, he was known more for his playmaking abilities, this season he has become more of a well-rounded centerman by adding goal scoring to his resume. His 16 goals are already four more than his freshman campaign and the season isn’t even over yet. That total also has him tied for second in the entire NCAA over many other first-round picks.
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From Corey Pronman at the Athletic ( today)
Tyler Madden, C, Los Angeles (traded from Canucks on Feb. 17)
Madden was No. 40 on my midseason prospect ranking, which would make him Los Angeles’ No. 5 ranked prospect right now, albeit in a very deep pool at the top. Madden is a player with elite skill. His 1-on-1 ability is among the very best drafted prospects outside the NHL. And he is a very smart two-way center. He makes a lot of high-end plays and is a solid defensive center because of how smart he is and his quality on-ice work ethic. He does everything for Northeastern, a top 10 team, regularly logging massive minutes this season. He has all the hockey abilities, but he’s a slight player with average feet. Even with his physical limitations, I think he will become a good NHL player once he eventually fills out with the potential to be a No. 2 center in the NHL. Madden was injured in a recent game, but it’s not believed to be a serious long-term injury.
He sounds like the most important part of the deal, according to these guys.
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1081I can't really offer much in the way of insight, considering ive never seen him play. I just go off what the scouting community says.NHLTIM wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:24 pmHe’s not going to replicate his college game at the NHL level . He’s likely going to be 3rd liner with special teams skills. He’s not going to be as good as his dad was but he will find a role for sure.usmcaaron wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:19 pmFrom The Hockey Writers (Jan 20)Matangama wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:30 pm Dave, I’m not a prospect guy like Tim or others, but Madden is pretty darn good prospect. He was a 3rd round pick, but seems to have risen in the Vancouver prospect rankings since then. Not sure who to compare him to for the Blues.
From Kevin Woolery NHL.com ( preseason)3. Tyler Madden (C)
Acquired: Third Round (68th overall), 2018 NHL Draft
2019-20 Team: North Eastern University Huskies (H-East)
2019-20 Stats: 22 GP – 16 G – 15 A – 31 PTS
To say that Tyler Madden’s season has been solid so far would be an understatement. All he has done is lead his team in scoring, set a new career-high in points with 31 and be a candidate for the Hobey Baker award. Just like many of the prospects on this list, he is exceeding expectations and showing us why draft position rarely matters in this sport.
Madden has filled in nicely for Adam Gaudette in the top-line center role for the Huskies. In the past, he was known more for his playmaking abilities, this season he has become more of a well-rounded centerman by adding goal scoring to his resume. His 16 goals are already four more than his freshman campaign and the season isn’t even over yet. That total also has him tied for second in the entire NCAA over many other first-round picks.
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From Corey Pronman at the Athletic ( today)
Tyler Madden, C, Los Angeles (traded from Canucks on Feb. 17)
Madden was No. 40 on my midseason prospect ranking, which would make him Los Angeles’ No. 5 ranked prospect right now, albeit in a very deep pool at the top. Madden is a player with elite skill. His 1-on-1 ability is among the very best drafted prospects outside the NHL. And he is a very smart two-way center. He makes a lot of high-end plays and is a solid defensive center because of how smart he is and his quality on-ice work ethic. He does everything for Northeastern, a top 10 team, regularly logging massive minutes this season. He has all the hockey abilities, but he’s a slight player with average feet. Even with his physical limitations, I think he will become a good NHL player once he eventually fills out with the potential to be a No. 2 center in the NHL. Madden was injured in a recent game, but it’s not believed to be a serious long-term injury.
He sounds like the most important part of the deal, according to these guys.
At least this explains why Vancouver grabbed Toffoli...
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1082Sounds like Kostin and Kyrou are above Madden. This trade doesn’t sound too expensive.Ozzies09tc wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:51 pmKostin or Kyrou perhaps?Matangama wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:30 pm Dave, I’m not a prospect guy like Tim or others, but Madden is pretty darn good prospect. He was a 3rd round pick, but seems to have risen in the Vancouver prospect rankings since then. Not sure who to compare him to for the Blues.
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1083Blues saving their bullets for Dillon or someone like him.
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1084We just didn’t have a prospect to make a deal for Toffoli that made sense. Of course we don’t even know if Army was really interested.
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1085Yeah based on my understanding of our prospect pool, we don't really have much in the way of mid-range forwards. We have a couple high upside guys in Kyrou and hopefully Kostin, then a bunch of guys that will top out on the 4th line. It sounds like there's more ceiling diversity for defensemen, but who knows if LA was interested in their back end. The other thing to keep in mind is that sometimes a team's pro/amateur scouts just don't have the same opinion as the team their dealing with. I'm sure some teams are pushing a prospect they thing is high end, but a potential trade partner just doesn't think that guy has it.BillP. wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:52 pmSounds like Kostin and Kyrou are above Madden. This trade doesn’t sound too expensive.Ozzies09tc wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:51 pmKostin or Kyrou perhaps?Matangama wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:30 pm Dave, I’m not a prospect guy like Tim or others, but Madden is pretty darn good prospect. He was a 3rd round pick, but seems to have risen in the Vancouver prospect rankings since then. Not sure who to compare him to for the Blues.
...but whatever, the Blues won the Cup!!!!!
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1086Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:54 am Blues saving their bullets for Dillon or someone like him.
Dillon is gonna be in high demand. So many teams need him so I’m not sure that bodes well for the Blues.
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1087At the current cost of business, I have a hard time seeing Army make any deals. They have plenty of depth. What players they need are likely the highest in demand. It's a tough position.NHLTIM wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:24 amDread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:54 am Blues saving their bullets for Dillon or someone like him.
Dillon is gonna be in high demand. So many teams need him so I’m not sure that bodes well for the Blues.
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1088I think that this deadline is going to be boring as hell leaguewide. Chris Kreider is a good hockey player, but when he's the marquee name in the trading pool, it's going to be a long day for all of the TSN and Sportsnet people.usmcaaron wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:49 amAt the current cost of business, I have a hard time seeing Army make any deals. They have plenty of depth. What players they need are likely the highest in demand. It's a tough position.NHLTIM wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:24 amDread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:54 am Blues saving their bullets for Dillon or someone like him.
Dillon is gonna be in high demand. So many teams need him so I’m not sure that bodes well for the Blues.
...but whatever, the Blues won the Cup!!!!!
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1089Seems like a weak return for Ottawa
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1090welp
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1091Man is deadline day going to be lame.
...but whatever, the Blues won the Cup!!!!!
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1092This sucks. I gotta say, especially w/ 50% retained, there was a real opportunity missed here for the Blues.
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1093Real trade deadline is today apparently.
...but whatever, the Blues won the Cup!!!!!
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1095Today is like the day when Stamkos re-signed with Tampa, Subban was traded for Weber, and Hall was traded for Adam Larsson all within 20 minutes of each other. The only difference is that instead of all these Richard/Norris/Hart Trophy winners, every trade is Larsson for non-first round picks.
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1097EVERY MIDDLE PAIRING DEFENSEMAN MUST GO!!!!!!!!!
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1098That means you Justin Faulk
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1099Just think of how many second round picks he'd fetch!!! PACK YOUR SHIT, JUSTIN!!!! Oh, only 2? Meh, whatever.Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:10 pmThat means you Justin Faulk
...but whatever, the Blues won the Cup!!!!!
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1100If we keep 27, faulk becomes draft fodder.Dave's a mess wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:14 pmJust think of how many second round picks he'd fetch!!! PACK YOUR SHIT, JUSTIN!!!! Oh, only 2? Meh, whatever.